O man I said before make the person that takes a death strike missile squad
give up the VPs when he fires the missiles. This is a simple way to solve
this, No point change just give up the VPs. Like an off table barage, you
have to give up VPs for this. And IGs should be able to choose what missile
they want, for they are plante deffense and some where on a whole plante
there will be a warp, barrage, and a vortex missile. You all crack me up
with this for the launcher should need line of sight, ( CHECK OUT FINAL
LIBERATION ) you need line of sight to fire a death stike missile not just
someone calling for a shot. And lets not get into cheesy armies for Chaos
SMs with all heavy weapons, Squats that never run till you darn well kill
the last one, Eldar with FREE crap, As you see all armies are cheesy so why
not just make a simple rule change like the one above not redo the whole
thing. And give the SMs back there free drop pods 300 points is crazy for
they are to eazly shot, or let them be classed as a flyer with -2 to hit,
and only the unit that is close to them may shoot at them. Not all that can
see and reach with weapons.
-----Original Message-----
From: Tzeentch <tzeentch666_at_...>
To: netepic_at_egroups.com <netepic_at_egroups.com>
Date: Thursday, April 08, 1999 2:55 PM
Subject: [NetEpic ML] Re: Warp Missiles
>While generally a nice idea I don't like it based on the simple fact that
it
>makes no sense. I'm sure a device as rare and expensive as a warp missile
>would be fitted with decent sensors that can pick out the size of an object
>or at least its enermy output - and a Warlord is going to put out a lot
more
>energy then a lowly Knight.
>
>No, something else needs to be done here and it needs to be a fundamental
>change as to how the warp missile works. I'm open to suggestions but right
>now its just unbalanced for the cost - on the Deathstrike platform at
least.
>
>I'd say no warp missiles on Deathstrikes. If they are so rare they why are
>they given to disposable Imperial Guard units, and mounted on vulnerable
>crawlers no less! No, I say the simplest (and one that makes sense) is to
>simply deny access to anything but Barrage missiles to Deathstrikes - I see
>them more as SCUDS then as platforms to launch rare and expensive missiles.
>Maybe give them some more conventional warhead types to compensate. But I
>believe only Titans should get the really rare stuff. The Adeptus
Mechanicus
>makes the weapons, why would'nt they give it their own Titan Orders?
>
>And I agree with the leave the transport crawlers on the table. Maybe give
>them some bolters to at least give them SOMETHING to do.
>
>Ken
>
>> I started thinking about this problem and came up with an idea. Tell me
>what
>> you think. This is a way to at least shield the more costly units with
>> others akin to the way escorts shield transports at sea.
>>
>> New Rule
>>
>> Warp missiles fired from a deathstrike launcher are launched directly
>ahead
>> and fly 35 cm the first turn. They may not go active at this time.
>Beginning
>> the next turn and continuing until they fly off the table or run out of
>> fuel, the owning player has the option of having the missile fly straight
>> ahead up to 35 cm or make the missile go active. At the moment the
missile
>> goes active, the owning player measures in a 360 degree arc to the
closest
>> enemy target with shields of any type. This becomes the target of the
>> "terminal flying" missile until the missile strikes the target or runs
out
>> of fuel, it will move at top speed to the target. Once striking, the
>missile
>> follows the normal rules of hitting and damage. Warp missiles fired from
>a
>> titan will target the closest enemy target with active shields and strike
>it
>> immediately.
>> These missiles may not be targeted at anything without active
shields.
>> This simulates the value of the missile as no one would waste one on a
>small
>> value target. Also, this would allow one to shield a target with a knight
>or
>> smaller value target as bait for these missiles.
>> Finally, imagine the computers in these missiles are programmed to go
>> after the nearest threat with shields to simulate using them against high
>> priority targets.
>>
>> Also, the firing platforms should stay on the battlefield for the entire
>> battle as it gives the enemy a chance to gain the victory points from
>these.
>> Where do they go anyway? Teleport away? :-)
>>
>> Maybe something like this would work? I agree we don't need a lot of
extra
>> rules to throw into the game as this will quickly bog it down with
>> exceptions, but this seems like a terrible abuse within the system. For
>> example, I would think that if I was playing a battle of Tech Guard vs.
IG
>I
>> could take out an Imperator with just three of these things as the rules
>> stand. 2250 points from 3 shots? Not good.
>>
>> Sincerely, Eddie (SRG)
>>
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