RE: Re: [NetEpic ML] Core rules polls

From: <eivind.borgeteien_at_...>
Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 16:43:51 +0200

This seems OK!

Eivind
>
> Fra: "Peter Ramos" <primarch_at_...>
> Dato: 2002/05/10 Fri PM 04:28:02 CEST
> Til: <netepic_at_yahoogroups.com>
> Emne: RE: Re: [NetEpic ML] Core rules polls
>
> Hi!
>
> Here are some "recommendations":
>
> Marines
>
> Ternminators
> Veterans
>
> Eldar
>
> Exarchs
> Aspect warriors
> Harlequinns
>
> The eldar are by far the most "elite" army", but that sort of fits them
> I think.
>
> Squats
>
> None that I can think of
>
> IG
>
> No core units, perhaps combat engineers (and a very big maybe with it to
> boot).
>
> Actually there is one, but its not entirely IG- Grey Knights.
>
> Orks
>
> NOBODY!!!
>
> Tyranids
>
> None.
>
> Chaos
>
> Terminators
>
> Maybe some of the optional CSM units, but I wont comment on optional
> rules in general
>
> Slann
>
> Vanguards- we must choose, HQ units or elites, I could go either way.
> Fluff wise they sound like the elite of the elite, so I would slant that
> way.
>
> No elite status for Necrons they have their own advantages.
>
> Can't think of any others.
>
> Peter
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rune.karlsen6_at_... [mailto:rune.karlsen6@...]
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 9:38 AM
> To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: Re: [NetEpic ML] Core rules polls
>
> Yes, there is some confusion on this, at least in my mind.
> Maybe a short list with suggestions for which units would
> be considered elites for each army?
> If we go by your definition of HQ cant be Elite, but at the
> same time go by the "Terminator standard", then i wonder what
> Slann Vanguards would be. They are certainly better than
> Termies, but are commanders :) Just one paradox i guess will
> come up. Id rather play with elites without the reroll, than
> having to see a discussion (which will probably last A LONG TIME),
> over which units deserve to be elite.
>
> Rune
> >
> > Fra: "Peter Ramos" <primarch_at_...>
> > Dato: 2002/05/10 Fri PM 02:54:48 CEST
> > Til: <netepic_at_yahoogroups.com>
> > Emne: RE: Re: [NetEpic ML] Core rules polls
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > I think there is a lot of confusion on "who" will be elite. Sure squat
> > get re-rolls but only against orks and which of there units DESERVE
> > elite status? I wouldn't give to any of their infantry, they are just
> > well trained grunts and guildmasters/hearthguard are HQ's so they
> don't
> > get it. As a matter of fact I cant think of any unit in the Squat army
> > that really should get it. As for chaos, company cards? Chaos marine
> you
> > mean? Why should they get it if most SM don't, sure their Termies
> would,
> > but that's it. Don't assume armies will get a lot of them or even one
> of
> > them. The standard, if any, should be SM terminators, if the unit is
> > that good then its elite. You'll find the list of possible elite units
> > shrinks big time. Also some armies, by fluff would have little to no
> > elites, its not their nature. Look at orks and IG, outside VERY few
> > special units (even if then) could be categorized as elites.
> >
> > Elites are by their nature, rare. The only army I can come up with
> more
> > than one valid elite unit are SM (termies and veterans). I think
> > everyone is assuming HQ are elite and I'm against that all the way.
> > HQ/elite units are super-units, that simple. You are either one or the
> > other, not both. Once you institute that the choices for elites are
> few
> > and far between.
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rune.karlsen6_at_... [mailto:rune.karlsen6@...]
> > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 8:39 AM
> > To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: Re: [NetEpic ML] Core rules polls
> >
> > Well, Eldar Harlequins i believe came up. Not to mention alot
> > of Squats. Chaos has entire company cards with elites as well,
> > giving them an added edge on their already razor sharp blade :)
> >
> > Rune
> > >
> > > Fra: "Weasel Fierce" <weasel_fierce_at_...>
> > > Dato: 2002/05/10 Fri PM 02:29:32 CEST
> > > Til: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> > > Emne: RE: Re: [NetEpic ML] Core rules polls
> > >
> > >
> > > >Id say that any commanders which actually fight alongside
> > > >the troops are elite. If they're pencil pushers, thats another
> > > >thing entirely. After all, id hesitate about putting my life
> > > >in the hands of a commander which wasnt experienced with fighting.
> > > >Its not just about hand to hand combat, but strategy, leadership
> and
> > > >the ability to think fast are very important. Thats my take on it
> > > >anyways :)
> > > >
> > > >The question also arose about how we'd treat elite units which
> > > >already has a close combat reroll. We decided this would call for
> > > >exceptions to the reroll rule, which will be unfair. Also, we dont
> > > >like rules with exceptions, as that generally means its not a good
> > > >rule (i think i speak for all of us here in sunny Norway on this :)
> > >
> > > I'd say that no die can be rerolled more than once. However, the
> > amount of
> > > units with CC rerolls are pretty limited eh?
> > >
> > > i cant offhand remember any at least
> > >
> > >
> > > Weasel
> > >
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