I know and agree. It does not make sense at all. But it is quite cool!! :-)
As for the warp-packs, I dont know, but psychers there are!
Eivind
>
> Fra: <rune.karlsen6_at_...>
> Dato: 2002/05/22 Wed AM 11:22:31 CEST
> Til: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> Emne: Sv: Sv: Sv: Sv: RE: [NetEpic ML] GW vs Epic questions
>
> Hi,
>
> Using psychers has nothing to do with religion in my book. Its
> when you start calling people "priests" or such and believe that
> a deity is behind the technology that we are talking religion.
> I can understand that the technology has been lost for millennia,
> but even then a fairly evolved race will recognize the difference
> between religious writings and actual technical descriptions.
> It shoulnd't be hard to sort out the relevant material from such
> texts. After all, if they can decipher them enough to duplicate
> the rituals, they would be able to sort out the mumbo-jumbo.
> This is really a matter of cause and effect. If you believe that
> everything in the ritual needs to be there and has an effect, you
> are religious. If you recognize the ritual for what it is, you will
> be able to see what you can ommit to make the darn things work :)
> Of course, to a lesser evolved race, who knows nothing of technology,
> everything will seem like magic (and then often mistaken for deity
> interaction). So, the question really is, how evolved are they?
> Do they have ANY technology of their own, mechanical or electrical
> in nature? If they run around with bows and arrows, i can understand
> their Machine God. But, even the name itself, Machine God, implies
> that they know what a machine is. If you do that, you know its an
> automated piece of equipment.
>
> Btw, The Slann also use psychers for entering the warp, why
> do they have warppacks? Do they come with a small WarpPsycher(TM)
> inside? ;) As far as i know, they use both psychers and technology.
> Of course, i dont know the fluff that well, so i wont bet on it.
>
> Rune
>
>
> >
> > Fra: <eivind.borgeteien_at_...>
> > Dato: 2002/05/22 Wed AM 10:42:01 CEST
> > Til: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> > Emne: Sv: Sv: Sv: RE: [NetEpic ML] GW vs Epic questions
> >
> > Much of the technology has been lost for millenia, and are now slowly being rediscovered. Often, there must be psychers available to understand and comprehend the archaic text/technology.
> >
> > For example, the humans rely on psychers to move through warpspace, while Eldar have warpgates. Squats, being the most technological advanced race in the universe, use machines on board their ships for this purpose. (For the record, Slann also use psychers:-))
> >
> > Eivind
> > >
> > > Fra: <rune.karlsen6_at_...>
> > > Dato: 2002/05/22 Wed AM 10:02:25 CEST
> > > Til: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> > > Emne: Sv: Sv: RE: [NetEpic ML] GW vs Epic questions
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > although the concept is somewhat cool, it's highly unlikely.
> > > An evolved race will comprehend the nature of technology,
> > > even if it is beyond their understanding. The concepts of spiritualism and technology are diametrically opposed, and to
> > > mix the two just seem ludicrous in real life. Fortunately, Epic
> > > isnt real life, although it might seem like it sometimes ;)
> > >
> > > Rune
> > > >
> > > > Fra: <eivind.borgeteien_at_...>
> > > > Dato: 2002/05/22 Wed AM 09:54:35 CEST
> > > > Til: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> > > > Emne: Sv: RE: [NetEpic ML] GW vs Epic questions
> > > >
> > > > > Besides, I really loathe tha "Machine God" background. Notice that I am not proposing the eradication of Tech Guard from Net Epic. Although the temptation is great, such proposal would have no chance whatsoewver of actually beig accepted.
> > > >
> > > > -------> I really like the "Machine God" background. Not that the machines are actuall dieties, but I like the religious aproch the humans have to technology. It makes the 40K universe more dark, mysterious and gothic.
> > > >
> > > > Eivind
> > > >
> > > > > Fra: <jyrki.saari_at_...>
> > > > > Dato: 2002/05/22 Wed AM 08:43:47 CEST
> > > > > Til: <netepic_at_yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > Emne: RE: [NetEpic ML] GW vs Epic questions
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: ext Peter Ramos [mailto:primarch_at_...]
> > > > > > Sent: 21. May 2002 19:32
> > > > > > To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] GW vs Epic questions
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Same with me, although, according to you logic, there should be no
> > > > > > separate PDF either.....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Peter
> > > > > >
> > > > > [snip]
> > > > >
> > > > > Why? Haven't you read Codex Exercitus? Ahem: "Every Imperial world has a duty to raise and maintain its own planetary defense force." Report for re-education immediately, Commissar Ramos. Thank you for your cooperation, the High Lords are your friends ;)
> > > > >
> > > > > IMO it is highly illogical that, after the Heresy, there exists an organization outside the administratum which has its own private army AND fleet transport. PDF is no problem since they won't leave their home planet without Imperial Fleet to transport them.
> > > > >
> > > > > Besides, I really loathe tha "Machine God" background. Notice that I am not proposing the eradication of Tech Guard from Net Epic. Although the temptation is great, such proposal would have no chance whatsoewver of actually beig accepted.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jyrki Saari
> > > > >
> > > > > -There is no such thing as free lunch because eating takes time and time is money.
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