RE: [NetEpic ML] psy power vs unit in close combat

From: Peter Ramos <primarch_at_...>
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 16:03:30 -0400

Hi!

Then add Necron/Slann to the cold blooded armies, they certainly would
fit the bill IMO.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: rune_at_... [mailto:rune@...]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:04 PM
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Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] psy power vs unit in close combat

Hi,

I guess this would apply to the Mantis missiles as well?
In that case, i would object that it would be very
tactical to fire mantis missiles at your troops when they
are engaged in CC with the enemy, since all Slann/Necron/Dracon
units are immune to the effects. In fact, it would be downright
stupid not to!

Rune
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Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] psy power vs unit in close combat
Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 20:07:58 -0400

> Hi!
>
> I have run into this "dilemma" regarding eldritch storm before. The
> answer is that the target units in case of eldritch storm may not
suffer
> "damage", but are affected negatively (as in losing the ability to
act)
> and thus is considered an attack. Just because an attack doesn't
result
> in elimination of a model it doesn't mean it is not an "attack". The
use
> of eldritch storm in your example (which I have seen many times) is
> ILLEGAL. There is no distinction in epic between an attack that
> eliminates a model and one that doesn't, they are both attacks and
thus
> non-cold blooded armies cannot involve as targets their units in such
an
> attack. You can't use eldritch storm to attack your own units engaged
> with enemy units to save them just because the attack is non-lethal,
> regardless of no casualty loss. It's an attack and thus not a legal
ploy
> in this case.
>
> Peter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Zerloon [mailto:zerloon_at_...]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 2:21 PM
> To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] psy power vs unit in close combat
>
> At 14.07 30/08/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>
>
> >Non- cold blooded armies cannot target their own troops. Although
> >Eldritch storm does not technically "kill" the target it is still an
> >attack and therefore can not be used in that context. So the answer
to
> >number 2 is NO>
> >
> >Your first question is somewhat ambiguous, but generally you can't
> >target a unit that is pinned in close combat. But note some powers
are
> >specifically for use in close combat thus they might be used. So the
> >answer is "maybe". I need a more specific example to answer.
> >
> >Peter
>
> I disagree, at least for Eldritch Storm, that not only don't kill, but
> not
> even harm the unit hit.
> I used it to save a detachment from sure death in Close combat (I
place
> template and of course the units scatter and divide, so they don't
make
> any
> close combat)... Is somethink like the warlock see the detachment in
> danger
> and "conceal" it in a Storm of unharmful energy.
>
> Please let me know!!
>
>
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