Re: [NetEpic ML] Battle, and some observations

From: Peter Ramos <primarch_at_...>
Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 20:57:09 -0400

Hi!

Angel wrote:

>Just finished a game this afternoon, 3500pts Orks vs Marines. I
>won't give a blow by blow description, just a couple of points that
>surprised us both.
>
>1. Weirdboyz Battle Towers. I'd never used these before, and at
>200pts I thought they were quite expensive. Halfway through the
>game, I realised they were very cheap for what they could do. I took
>a Bad Moon clan, with two Weirdboy Towers. The clan has 4 Nobz and
>15 Boyz, so 19 orks total. That gives a LOT of firepower with no
>risk. Actually I goofed, there were some dreadnoughts within the
>25cm range so the Weirdboyz actually had 21 points of power. Their
>heads didn't blow up, and they smashed the Marines to bits from the
>back of the board! One tower wiped out a whole Terminator
>detachment, still inside their Land Raiders, in one round - and with
>a -5 TSM they didn't even get a bail out roll. That was a turning
>point, none of his forces could get close enough to hurt the
>Weirdboyz without being blown to pieces. Later on I just kept
>shooting with them, risking the headbanger, and when one did blow up
>it took out half the clan as well. But the battle was pretty much
>over by then, and the remaining Boyz ran over to the other tower to
>keep it operating at a safe level. Are they worth 200pts each? They
>are worth 300, at least.
>
They used to e 100 points and were increased. They seem like a good
deal, but roll that 6 and you'll find a good part of your army
evaporated. The more you bring the greater the risk, so I think it
balances out.

>2. Rhino stampede. When the Marines saw what happened to the
>Terminator detachment, they quickly jumped out of their Rhinos and
>held their ground against the oncoming Orks. I sent two detachments
>of Spleenrippas up one side to outflank them. They caused a bit of
>damage, but the Rhinos (which weren't doing anything else once they'd
>unloaded their Marines) turned and charged my Spleenrippas! Neither
>of us had any CAF, so it was down to numbers and the Rhinos won
>easily. 3 Rhinos for 50pts, they're very cheap and can afford to
>take a few casualties. The Spleenrippas were twice the cost but were
>effectively battered out of the game! Must remember that tactic, use
>a whole swarm of Rhinos and charge into something, sheer weight of
>numbers will win the day.
>
Rhinos, like some other units in other armies are good units at a cheap
price. The SM have disadvantages, so the rhinos compensate those. Some
whould counter argue that rhinos are useless, but you have found a use
for them.

>3. Pulsa Rokkits. Nice try, didn't hit a goddamn thing with any of
>them.
>
As with most ork weaponry, it either does a lot or nothing.

>4. I took a detachment of hop-splat artillery, towed by warbuggies.
>As soon as they got within range, all but one of the hop-splats was
>wiped out by a Tactical Marine Company. The one remaining gun was
>virtually ignored, but it continued to fire anyway. It hit again and
>again and again, and must have taken out half a dozen Marines and
>several Rhinos by the end of the game. Nobody fired back at it
>because they had more important targets to shoot - Stompas, Nobz
>Bikeboyz, etc. The lone gun survived the game and was declared Ork
>of the day :)
>
Hop splats are wonderful guns, yet are under used. I'm glad you
discovered there use!

>5. Forward Observers and Orbital Barrages. Does that card only
>entitle the Marine player to one single barrage? I know it's free,
>but the FO cost 100 pts and the barrage didn't kill that much in
>points! What is the FO supposed to do for the rest of the game?
>
They can be used for your conventional artillery to make direct
artillery strikes even though they dont have direct line of sight. Very
useful.

>6. Super Heavies. Marines don't have any. We only realised that
>when I put 5 SH's in my army (2 Skullhammas and 3 Stompas) and he
>didn't have anything to stand up to them. What do Marine players
>recommend to use instead - take SH tanks from the IG ally list?
>
You hit upon one of the disadvantages of the SM army. To counter it the
most effective way is to bring suitably armed titans. A pair of warhunds
with suitable weapons are wonder super heavy killers.

>All things considered, it was a fun game. The Orks won, but that's
>not the point - it would have still been fun if they'd lost (I
>laughed just as hard when my Weirdboy blew up half his own clan).
>
Glad you had a blast and thanks for sharing your experiences with us!

Peter
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