AW: [NetEpic ML] Digest Number 2041

From: Dipl.-Ing. \(FH\) Kai Elfers <"Dipl.-Ing.>
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 16:00:14 +0200

If the points-system would only depend on e vehicle statistic in comparison
to all others then it would be equal f we ignore the codex and allies rules.
If you would compare all unit statstic for example the tempest and
shadowsword, then you will come to the result that the shadowsword is a bit
better, but only because of the penetrating. And then you could say that 3
shadowswords cost a bit more then 3 tempest. But now they are in unbalance
at all equal of playing allies or codex or everything else. 6 tempest are
400 points !!! cheaper then 6 shadowswords.

 

And by the way i do not think that the way we play is so unlogical. We can
all play our armies at the same time having a great day. All different
units, because no allies. All the variety of units because no codex rules
and honest of course i can give you any logical sense of our army mxing.
Because you could always say that it is random that all armies are fighting
the same time at the same place and suddenly you have the fight 3 against 4
races because they all want to have a special object or something else. I
think that our system should be considered in the rules. So we need a
points-system in balance!

 

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So, to paraphrase....you guys are playing the game ignoring the army
construction rules, and the allies rules, both of which are likely to be
inherently unbalancing.....and you are complaining that it is unbalanced.
Is that correct?

Guys, make up some house rules....really.

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b. AW: [NetEpic ML] Digest Number 2040
Posted by: "Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Kai Elfers" kai.elfers_at_web.
<mailto:kai.elfers%40web.de> de angels_so_dark
Mon Jul 2, 2007 10:32 pm (PST)
Ok, now i know why we have so many misunderstandings. Let me explain you
how
we play epic: we always play 3 races against 4 in a random direction. And
we
do not care about the gw-background like elder would not fight with chaos
and so on. So we have always different arrangements in a battle. We have
the
following armies: chaos, elder, squats, marines, guards, orks and tyranids.
We play all 6 weeks and then the hole day! Because of the multiple races we
ignore the allies rule, because if you play for example chaos+guards+elder
against marines+tyranids+orks+squats, then you already have allies at all
in
the point of view of a single army. So every army can only take the units
of
their own army-list. Further we decide that every army can take all units
of
the army-list including standard and codex without the percentage-rule. The
only condition is, that you have to take at least one company card from a
codex-list. For example: i play the space marines and because we want to
use
all the verity of the units, i make up my army consisting of dark angels,
space wolves and iron hands. So i can do it, i have to take at least one
company from each chapter. I decide to take the dak angels ravenwing to
represent the dark angels in my hole space marine army, i take the great
comany from the space wolfes and the clan siege company from the iron
hands.
Now i decide to include knights in my army - in our point of view the
knights are not a separate army. The knights could only be used by the
imperium (marines and guards) - so i have to take at least one company to
do
so. I decide to take a paladin household and then i can take the ordinatus
golgotha as a special card. By the way, we ignore the titan legion too. In
our opinion the battles groups make a battle too partial so no one can take
them. So only the imperator titan is left in the titan legion and we put
him
into the guard and marines standard army list as a special card. But back
to
topic. Now i have build my space marine army consisting of dark angels,
space wolfes, iron hands and imperial knights. How many points i invest in
each chapter is equal as long as i have at least one company of each
chapter. I have only to be in the max. point value for my hole army. And
now
back to our discussion and keep the things i described above in mind. If
our
elder player decides to take the saim-hain wind rider host, then he has no
disadvantages, because then he can take another chapter or two to built his
hole elder army consisting of many chapters. So he has access to the
tempest
by taking another chapter which then can take the tempest. And with this
background knowledge the points value for the saim-hain is very critical in
relation to the other armies.

Regards kai

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