[NetEpic ML] Re: Titan revision: Eldar

From: Warprat <warprat_at_...>
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 23:32:57 -0800

Hi Travis!

Comments, on your comments.



Travis Smart wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Warprat <warprat_at_...>
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> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2000 9:19 PM
> Subject: [NetEpic ML] Re: Titan revision: Eldar
>
> > OK, I've got a couple of things to say.
> >
> > 1) I think the reactor should be in the front, for Eldar Titans.
> > I agree with the "more fragile" argument. I don't think the front
> > reactor hurts these titans, near as much as the Warlord was. The armor
> > is 1+, WITH a holo field, already! And barrages, the chief weakness of
> > holo fields, will no longer be an issue?
>
> Agreed,completely.
>


Great!


 
> >
> > 2) I'm very, very disturbed, by the direction these Eldar Titans are
> > going. I can go along with eliminating the holo field barrage weakness,
> > but these titans are fast becoming monsters. I have an Eldar army, with
> > lots of titans. I've played with, and against the Eldar. I love the
> > Eldar. But I DO NOT want to cheeze my friends with these things.
>
> as long as the Space Wolf rules are like they are,you arent the worst at
> least : ) I honestly dont see eldar as being that awesome,the empire and
> chaos have such a cornucopia of weapons and chassis its insane. We dont ave
> much,but what we have is baaaaad.
>
> And I
> > don't want them so expensive, I can't field more than one.
> >
>
> agreed. If i want infntry and vehicles only,ill play 40K V2.
>


Despite the huge number of human unit types, they are divided into three
different types of armies. Space Marines, Imperial Guard, and Tech
Forces, they all have a unique "flavor". Each one might as well be a
different race.

I do agree, however, that Chaos has a huge variety of troops, and seems
to have the best of everything. But to be fair, I haven't had much
opportunity to play them. I sure seem to battle them alot, however.

And your right, Eldar stuff is BAAAD! Eldar are very powerfull in thier
own specialized areas. The trick, as any Eldar player knows, is in
getting those specialized units to work together. IF you can do that,
your going to win.






> > 3) The D-Cannon. Let it fire on Advance. Scatter it on 2d6. 1d6 is
> > almost meaningless, it will still hit 1/2 of the time, if it does
> > scatter. After thinking about it, leave the cost at 125pts.
>
> Drop it to 1d6,make it 150. I cant see eldar being as inaccurate as orks.
>

Well, controlling the Warp is no easy task. The Mekboys that try to
attempt it, don't live too long.

OK, Eldar have great technology, but as a game rule, do you really want
this weapon to hit half the time, when it scatters? YOU might, but how
about the guy on the opposite side of the table? I smell cheese.







> >
> > 4) At first I really liked the idea of new Eldar titan weapons (I even
> > created a couple of them for consideration), now I'm starting to lean
> > against them. Weapon flexability is a human advantage.
>
> Yes,however look at the variety of eldar paths. Should not the titans
> reflect the variety in fighting styles the eldar posses? No more ranged
> weapons are needed,but i think two,maybe three HtH weps would be a good
> addition.
>
> Humans have the
> > most variety of any race. Humans are creative and adaptable. Eldar are
> > an ancient race, and set in thier ways. They already have the best
> > technology, so why should new weapons be developed, beyond creating more
> > money for Games Workshop? ;)
> >
>
> Heheheheh.... Hows this for a reason: Cool,custom models? or a HtH titan
> force? maybe take on an Imperator in HtH with a tooled up Warlock.....oh
> yeeeeaaaahhhhh..... : )
>


Well, Eldar Titans do not have as many weapons to choose from as humans,
that's true of course. But, what race has the best looking titans?
Eldar, hands down!!!! Eldar titans are not specialists in hand to hand.
This Ancient race has seen races rise and fall, and seen the humans go
through the Dark Age of Technology. Probably even battled them a time
or two. They know what works for them, and what doesn't.

That being said, it is very tempting to want to add a weapon or two to
the Eldar Arsenal. Perhaps we could add some, as an Alternate Rule.
Both players would have to agree. I'm just worried about Play Ballance.
An alternate rule would allow some time for play testing and evaluation.

One other point to consider. I'm not too hot on adding or modifying new
weapons to my titans. Not because I think they wouldn't look cool,
mainly just for the resale/collectors value.


What does everyone else think?

Warprat ;)
Received on Sat Mar 11 2000 - 07:32:57 UTC