Re: [NetEpic ML] Re: Iron Warrior votes (LONG)

From: Peter Ramos <primarch_at_...>
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 19:35:53 -0400

Hi!

I would agree here too, to avoid unbalance the easiest thing is to make every chaos chapter self contained, in other words they have a VERY narrow list of cards teh ycan take and thats it. It conserves character and balance by no allowing mixing with conventional chaos forces.

Peter

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  Hear Hear counldn't have put it better myself, this is why there should be new units and their Primarches. Each of the newer armies should be made to stand on there own, as for the Iron Warriors, in their fluff, they do own there own planet witch they control and defend. And a one shot card can not show this.
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    B: Simply change the focus of the Iron Warriors into bunker and trench
    assaulting

    -->This is the easiest solution. In the current context of the Chaos lists, Legions such as the Iron Warriors would be limited to specialized detachment (retinue) cards, and then probably only if a regular Legion card (ie Thousand Sons) is taken first. The other option, and one which should be pursued IMO, is to create a specific CSM list. Fluff wise, Demonic armies are lead by the Greater Demons, while Black Crusades are almost exclusively CSMs, with some demonic support. In a CSM list, Greater Demons would be Special cards, with a slightly increased points cost, but keeping the minor demons and CSM Primarchs the same cost.
            As for Lucca's concern about making the CSMs same as SMs, well, they are really. The biggest difference is amount of equipment (such as T-Hawks), and lack of organization (exception Alpha Legion IMO). Keep in mind, before they fell to Chaos, they were Space Marines, and the equivalent of any of the Loyalist Legions. Some of the traitor legions have changed more than others over the years, and that should be reflected as well, but at their core, they are still SM's. Personally, I think the emphasis on Chaos should focus more on the CSM's and less on the demonic aspects. Unless of course you're fighting on a demon world, in which case, anything goes. This way, just as the regular SMs have their uniqueness, so should the Chaos legions. Though I do suggest that for both the SMs and CSMs, that we stick solely to the first founding guys for the most part, adding in only a select few others (Mentor Legion, Grey Knights, Black Templars, and Huron's traitors). All the others usually fall under the umbrella of a first founding legion anyway.

    Josh R

    Minister for General Mayhem
    "Don't let the bastards grind you down." Gen. Joseph Stilwell


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