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From: hellreich [mailto:hellreich_at_...]
Sent: 9. oktober 2000 23:50
To: netepic_at_egroups.com
Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] Re: [Net Epic ML] Slann victorious again?
----- Original Message -----
From: Eivind Borgeteien <eivind.borgeteien_at_...>
To: <netepic_at_egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 5:07 PM
Subject: [NetEpic ML] Re: [Net Epic ML] Slann victorious again?
> --- In netepic_at_egroups.com, "Peter Ramos" <primarch_at_b...> wrote:
> Hi!
> I have some questions regarding the slann rules:
>
> 1) The neuro disruptor missiles make ALL units stop or gives them
> half movement. The mantis missile launcher has similar weapons but
> states that only vehicles can be stopped, other units automatically
> gets half movement. Isnt this supposed to be the same weapon? If not,
> then why?
> The Nullify Field from the Mantis missiles should work the same as the
Disruptor missiles. It is NOT an automatically half movement. Nullify Field
should say All models within 6cm of the generator must roll to see if they
can move.
--->Shouldnt it be the other way around? I seems to remeber a fierce
discussion some time ago where we decided that infantry and cavalry couldnt
be stopped, only vehicles because their mechanical and electronic parts is
much more woulnerable to the effects of these missiles than the organic
functions of the flesh and blood.
> 2)Can these missiles be shot indirect?
> yes
> 3)The missiles on the vanguard and spawnguard hits on a 5+, while the
> missiles on the gravguard hits on a 4+. Are there any reasons why it
> should be this way or is it just a typo?
> this is a typo and it should be 5+ not 4+
> Eivind
>
>
>
> Hi!
> >
> > Nice report from Nils! I'm glad to see that the slann balance seems
> to be
> > holding out. It seems luck had a major part in the battle and had
> Rune not
> > been so lucky he would have been pounded, of course Nils could have
> used
> > some good luck too, otherwise the titan would have bought the farm
> from the
> > nova cannon.
> >
> > It seems the slann's only hope for victory is a quick and decisive
> first
> > turn, I don't think they have enough resilience to come from
> behind, they
> > don't have enough manpower for that. It will be interesting to pit
> Tyranids
> > against them or orks, since these armies fare a lot better the
> longer the
> > game goes.
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Karlsen Rune [mailto:rune.karlsen_at_e...]
> > Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 5:57 AM
> > To: 'netepic_at_egroups.com'
> > Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] Slann victorious again?
> >
> >
> > Heh, i was writing my own battlereport yesterday, but Nils beat
> > me to it :)
> >
> > Comments : After round one, the score was Slann 34, IG 14
> > My plan was to use the Necron Assaults to capture and
> > hold as many OP's as possible, while supporting them
> > with the Gravguards. The Vanguards, from their position
> > in the middle of the board, would then be free to charge
> > in wherever they were needed. The Titan would try to
> > take out as many Superheavies as possible, while
> > using its plasmaweapon to take out as many infantry
> > as possible. The tanks were in the middle as well,
> > and with their great range could support most of the
> > units on either side.
> >
> > I agree with Nils' assessment, that another round would
> > have been fatal to the Slann. I was fast running out
> > of troops, and both the tanks and the remaining Necron
> > Company card would have broke, giving another 10 VP's
> > to IG. I would have been hard pressed to hold on to
> > at least 2 of the OP's i had taken, and Nils' luck
> > with the Nova Cannon might have turned. My conclusion
> > is that allthough the Slann are powerful, they simply
> > don't have enough troops to last a long battle. I guess
> > thats what the Dracons are for (ie. fodder :).
> > If i hadn't made the Nemesis regen reroll, the battle
> > would have seen another round...I guess i lucked out
> > on this one :)
> >
> > Rune
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nils.saugen_at_s... [mailto:nils.saugen_at_s...]
> > Sent: 9. oktober 2000 10:06
> > To: netepic_at_egroups.com
> > Subject: [NetEpic ML] Slann victorious again?
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Second game of testing Slann 4.0 this time against the might
> of the
> > empire.
> >
> > The Forces:
> >
> > SLANN
> > Gravguard Compnany
> > Necron Assault Company x2
> > Necron Nemesis MBT Detachment
> > Vanguard Detachment
> > Razor Fang Titan
> >
> > IMPERAL GUARD
> > Rough Rider Company
> > Beastmen Company
> > Artillery Company
> > Shadowblade Company
> > Forward Observers
> > Ordinarius Armageddon
> > Ordinarius Golgotha
> > Sentinel Detachmen x5
> > Deathstrike battery armed with Vortex missiles.
> > Commisars X4
> >
> > The Battlefield (seen form setupsone A)
> >
> > Setupsone A:
> > Town on the left side, two hills on the right.
> >
> > Centre:
> > Hill on the left side, town in the middle and another hill on
> the
> > far right.
> >
> > Setupsone B:
> > Woods on the left side, town to the right.
> >
> > Conclusion:
> > We had a continous town/city streching diagonally across the
> > tabletop from the left corner of setupsone A to the right corner of
> > setupsone B. It contained mostly whole buildings and a couple of
> ruins in
> > the in the center of the Town.
> >
> > We placed the victory points on the hills and in the
> buildings and
> > ruins in the cental sone.
> >
> > We where all set to go!
> >
> > After 5 rerolls I got to choose setupsona and picked A
> >
> > IMPERIAL SETUP/BATTLEPLAN
> > I placed the one roughider detacment on the right side,
> supported by
> > a Shadowblade and a commissar. In the middle I placed the Beastmen,
> > supported by 2 detachments of sentinels, 2 commisars and the command
> > Shadowblade. On the left I placed the remaining Roughriders, 2
> detachments
> > of sentinels, the last shadowblade and the deathstrikes. The
> artillery was
> > placed behind the hill on the right, protected by a detachment of
> sentinels,
> > with the ordinarius vehicles on the top of the hill overlooking the
> entire
> > battlefield. The forward observers was placed in the center close
> to a
> > building that would give them a viewe of most of the field.
> >
> > I planned to use the Roughriders/Beastmenn to capture 4
> objective
> > points, using the sentinels and shadowblades as firesupport. The
> artillery
> > and the Armageddon should first breake the Gravguard, then
> concentrate on
> > the necron assaults/vanguards. The deatstrikes should be used to
> take out
> > buildings filled with enemy troops. The Golgotha was to concentrate
> on
> > taking out the Razor Fang with the nova cannon.
> >
> > SLANN SETUP
> > Rune placed his Titan on the far Right in the outskirts of
> the city
> > overlooking almost half the battlefield and directly opposite of my
> > ordinarius vehicles. He also placed 2 necron detachments and a
> gravguard
> > detachment there. In the center he placed a necron detachment, the
> > vanguards, the Nemesis and a detachment of gravguards. The rest of
> his
> > troops where placed in the woods on the left side of the board.
> >
> > PLANS?
> > Rune can fill you inn on this........????
> >
> > TURN 1:
> > Rune won the initiative (In all my games against rune I've
> only won
> > the initiative once in the first turn!!!!!!!!!) Half the Necrons
> surged
> > forward using their warp jump capability to occupy the hills on the
> flanks,
> > the other half moved into support possition on the backside of the
> hills out
> > of harms way. The grav guards in the center and on the right moved
> into good
> > first fire possitions, while the detachment of the left stayed
> hidden in the
> > woods. The Vanguards took up position in a building in the centre
> of town
> > with good line of sight to most of the board! the Nemesis rolling
> up in the
> > street beside the building. The Titan remained on first fire
> prepared to
> > rain death on the unfortunate Imperials.
> >
> > The sound for charge was given and the roughriders on both
> flanks
> > charget up the hills to attack the necron invaders! In the center a
> wave of
> > beastmen ran from cover to cover charging through the streets
> towards the
> > enemy lines. Two commisars and a detachment of sentinels engaged the
> > Vanguards in close combat (not all of the vanguards was placed
> inside the
> > building) The sentitnels and the Shadowblade on the left advanced
> up behind
> > the calvalry and preperd to kill off any surviving necrons.
> >
> > Then the Titan fired, blasting away at the Shadowblades
> destroying
> > one and crippeling the command tank. Then the Imperials fired up
> their big
> > guns Raining death over the Slann troops. The gravguards got the
> worst of
> > it, almost breaking the company (1 stand short!!!!). The Titan
> luckily made
> > his shield save from the full onslaught of the Nova Cannon, or it
> would have
> > been a heap of smoldering metal.
> >
> > Then the fighting on the hills began. The roughriders where
> no match
> > for the slann assault troops, so by the end of the turn, both hills
> where
> > more or less controlled by the Slann. In the center one commisar
> fought
> > valiantly to a draw against a vanguard (this should come to be a
> > disadvantage for me in the second turn, although it hindered the
> vanguards
> > to move further!) On advance fire the nemesis tanks killed the
> remaining
> > Shadowblade and put the shadowblade commander out of his misery.
> >
> > Score: Slann 34 Imperials 10 ???
> >
> > TURN 2:
> > Second rount the imperials won the initiative, using the
> remainig
> > roughriders to attack the necorns on both hills. The Slann on the
> other hand
> > attacked the a beastmen detachment in the center, and to move up
> more troops
> > into the close combat on the right flank. The Gravguards covardly
> withdrew
> > from imperial line of sight. However, the third detachment moved
> forward
> > from the wood to hide in safety behind the left hill, or so the
> > thought....... The Nemesis advanced forward into better fire
> posistions, and
> > the titan remained on first fire. The Beastmen turned left and
> moved up to
> > the foot of the left hill preparing to charge the hill in the next
> turn.
> >
> > The nova cannon firerd against the Titan, and
> > MISSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The titan retaliated fiering back
> at the
> > Golgotha, not able to harm the Golgotha the Titan was lucky enough
> to kill
> > of two bassilisks with its template plasma weapon. Then the Vortex
> missiles
> > struck. One killing an entire detachment of necrons in a building
> in the
> > centre of the board also containing a victory point. The secon
> killed a
> > nemesis tank (this was planned to take out the Vanguards, but I
> couldn't do
> > that since a Commisar was still locket in mortal combat with a
> vanguard
> > inside the building) The third missile took out those unfortunate
> Gravguards
> > hiding behind the hill. A second Nemesis was also destroyed by
> artilery
> > fire. The close combat on the right was won by the Necrons, in the
> centre
> > and the right the reslut of the close combat was a tie.
> >
> > I wasted several shots from the Armageddon and the Artillery
> on the
> > Titan.
> >
> > Score: Slann 48 Imperials 21
> >
> > Slann won again!
> >
> > SUMMARY:
> > Die rolls!!!!!!!!!! I was very unfortunate this time (I seem
> to be
> > that quite often when playing against the Slann) The Nemesis in the
> middle
> > made its repair roll if it hadn't done that, the score would have
> been 43 -
> > 30 (Rune quite often have good luck with the dice and this time was
> no
> > exception). I guess that if we had played another round I would
> have had a
> > fair chance of beating Slann!!! Charging the vanguards was a suicide
> > mission, the commisars wasn't supposed to survive, yet one did and
> that
> > secured the Vanguards survival, thats another 5 points (For a total
> of 44 -
> > 35). I was very close to beat the slann this time, + IG has got som
> very
> > powerfull weapons themselves!!!!! The Razor Fang is not that
> dangerous when
> > placed on the far side of the board (just keep the number of
> targets to a
> > minimum if possible). The Mechs are much more dangerous.........
> >
> > More testing on it's way, we'll try to get a game going
> against
> > Chaos and Orks in the future......
> >
> > I guess we are getting there with Slann balance also.... The
> breake
> > quite easily.......
> >
> > Ok Comments? Questions??
> >
> > Nils
> >
> >
> >
> >
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