Re: [NetEpic ML] Warmonger Playtesting from Daniel

From: Daniel Wolf <MasterDanielWolf_at_...>
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 17:41:11 +0100

Hi Qester,

this one is the official ruling when Emperor Class titans are in CC (and the warmonger is a emperor class titan):

Quote:
"It's important to state these Imperator rules since there are a lot of
misconceptions.

First, the special rules regarding how lesser vehicles and troops engage with titans do NOT apply. Simply stated the Imperator is INVULNERABLE to such an assault. Now this is in respect to the actual titan. Now infantry CAN attack any troops in the leg bastions and if defeated cause damage in those sections, but this is the only way they can affect it. In other words lesser vehicles and troops attacking the Imperator itself would just be destroyed. They cannot affect the titan itself externally, they MUST engage
and defeat its occupants, its more like attacking a building, you can occupy it and damage it but you can't destroy it in close combat.

Only titans, praetorians and knights can affect the Imperator normally.

Peter [Ramos]"

Addition from me:
"The special Titan CC rules are not used for imperator titans, because:
- all of the troops can fire before attack in cc (this would mean to mean that all secondary weapons and bolters may be fired, if they haven't been already fired in the first fire segment).

- when cc is resolved, the onboard troops defend the imperator titan"


This should make the question, that a warlord is better in fighting off CC assailants, obsolete.

Therefore you need no titan defence system. Hope this was quoted the right way. What do you say Peter?

Bye
Dan Wolf

  ----- Original Message -----
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  Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2000 11:50 PM
  Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] Warmonger Playtesting from Daniel





    Daniel Wolf <MasterDanielWolf_at_...> wrote:



    I like it but I still think you need to loose the bolters and use the titan defeance system

    and what do you do with the 14 secondary guns on the mini ???? warlord titans can fight off a CC better then a Imp or War monger

    Q...




    Hi!





    Here follows my newest write up of the Warmonger Titan, i used the suggestions of the other guys to come up with something "final" for playtesting:








    I. Plasma Usage:


    1 plasma to move (2/overcharge to run);


    1 for fire control (2/overcharge for first fire);


    1 for sensorium;


    1 for shield-regen. on 5+ (2/overcharge for regen. on 4+);


    1 for Doomstrike Launcher (2/overcharge for firing more missiles);


    1 for Vengeance Cannon (2/overcharge for better shooting mode);


     





    II. Weapons





    A. Doomstrike launcher


    Plasma: 1 plasma to shoot one missile, 2 plasma (overcharge) to shoot 2 missiles


     


    range attacks to hit TSM SP
    unlim. see below 3+ under temp -


     


    The Doomstrike is fitted with 8 "Emperor's Fist" missiles (hehe, found a cool name) per standard; they are basical barrage missiles, which produce only d3 additional templates (instead of d6).


    Up to three "Emperor's fist" missiles my be replaced by special missiles (warp, vortex, harpoon), but the points cost of these must be added to the points total of the warmonger.


     





    B. Vengeance Cannon


    Plasma: The accelerator chamber has place for two plasma counters.





    A green counter gives this profile:


    range attacks to hit TSM SP
    75cm 2 3+ -2 ---





    A red counter gives this profile:


    range attacks to hit TSM SP
    100cm 2 3+ -4 +3 on damage tables


    if any ones are rolled,the coolant system has overheated, the weapon needs one turn to cool off.

    (you lose the punch the gun has for the increased fire)





    [remark: This profile i like. It gives you good firepower with just one green counter, effectively using a turbo-laser destructor with a range of 100cm (with sensorium). When you overcharge it you get a volcano cannon with 2 attack dice, which is also very neat. ;-)]








    C. Flak Battery auto-cannons


    Plasma: Fire control powered


    range attacks to hit TSM SP
    75cm 16 4+ -1 can shoot at titans/praetorians and buildings normally; AA gun


                                                                               Other models my be targeted if they are between 50cm-75cm (or 100cm


                                                                               with sensorium)





    OR:







    range attacks to hit TSM SP
    100cm 16 5+ -1 can shoot at titans/praetorians and buildings normally; AA gun


                                                                              Other models my be targeted if they are between 50cm-100cm (or 125cm


                                                                              with sensorium)





    OR:







    range attacks to hit TSM SP
    100cm 16 5+ -1 can shoot at any models; AA gun


                                                                              Other models my be targeted if they are between 25cm-100cm (or 125cm

                                                                              with sensorium)





    [remarks: the flak batteries are very difficult to design, therefore i listed 3 stats. Which profile suits the warmonger best should be said after intensive playtesting. And the flak betteries will also have a high influence on the points cost of the warmonger, as they are his main weapon system. My favourite profile (until now; without playtesting; is Profile 3).]








    D. Head guns




    Plasma: fire control powered to shot


    range attacks to hit TSM SP
    50cm 2 4+ -2 ----









    E. Secondary Weapons and Bolters


    Plasma: fire control powered to shot
    range attacks to hit TSM SP
    50cm 4 5+ -1 Secondary Weapons
    15cm 8 6+ 0 Bolters





    The Warmonger Titan carries 12 stands of troops (only in the bastions!), which fire the bolters and secondary weapons.





    III. Sensorium







    Plasma: one green counter


    adds +25cm to all weapon ranges, when powered and not damaged



     


    VI. The Spotter Plane




    move save CAF weapons range A.D. to hit TSM
    35cm 5+ +1 bolters 15cm 2 6+ 0
    The spotter plane allows the doomstrike launcher to be fired indirectly like artillery (with a scatter roll).








    Points Cost:


    Cheaper than the imperator titan (mainly depends on the flak batteries). But we can certainly start with 2250 pts. and make it cheaper. I'm aiming at something around 1800 points or so.








    Finished! That's how i imagine the warmonger. Finally i have found a nicely profile (at least for myself; let's see what remains after playtesting and your devastating comments ;-).








    Bye & hoping you're all fielding warmongers in your next battles ;-)


    Dan Wolf









                    


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