--- In netepic_at_egroups.com, "peter ramos" <ramospeter_at_h...> wrote:
Hi!
My thoughts below
Hi!
>
> Why not then just say when PDF are involved use the siege rules for
> placement of terrain and objectives? In essence that what it is.
Under this
> assumption the terrain and objectives would be set by the PDF
player and the
> attacker would assault it, double VP's for breaking attacking
units, bouble
> VP's for objectives taken by the attacker>
-----> This could be a solution but I think it makes the PDF too
dull. Its just like playing any other siege scenario, but with some
new troops.
> Its harder to have a set piece battle that is fair for the PDF
since their
> ability to move and attack is at a disadvantage.
>
> On the other hand I like the idea of giving them free fortification
with
> each company card (sorta like the free commissar with IG) and
instead of the
> 60cm deployement why not let the PDF player deploy his
fortifications and
> the company card that accompanies it deploy around a selected
objective.
> Terrain and objectives are placed as normal, but the PDf gets
to "dig in"
> one "X" amount of objectives (like stated before as related to
points
> played). This simulates their being there first and fortifying a
position.
-----> I like this, a very good idea!
>
> Peter
>
Eivind
> >From: eivind.borgeteien_at_c...
> >Reply-To: netepic_at_egroups.com
> >To: netepic_at_egroups.com
> >Subject: [NetEpic ML] Re: Planetary Defence Forces
> >Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 16:04:39 -0000
> >
> >Hi
> >
> >Well, I dont agree on this.
> >
> >Firstly, I think that OPs should always be set up by mutual
agreement
> >between the two oposing players. I do however think that the PDF
> >player should have a huge say about how the terrain is set up.
After
> >all, when you build fortifications you always make sure you have a
> >killzone for it.
> >
> >Secondly, the PDF has lousy range on their weapons, most of them
has
> >merely 35 cm. This will say that if you have to deploy all your
> >fortificated units within 40 cm of the tableedge, they have no
> >targets the first round. The 60 cm rule would also be an advantage
> >for the oposing player as he has less ground to cover before he can
> >assault the fortifications.
> >
> >(This 60 cm rule is a rule I adopted from the siege scenario GW
> >published years ago, but there the defending side could deploy 80
cm
> >from the tableedge.)
> >
> >Eivind
> >
> >
> >
> >--- In netepic_at_egroups.com, "peter ramos" <ramospeter_at_h...> wrote:
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > I think this is a good idea, I'd leave out the deploying at
60cm in
> >favor of
> > > letting the PDF setup the objectives as well as having some in
> >their hands
> > > at the games start. This would make most objective theirs or
really
> >close to
> > > them for them to take, putting the onus on the opponent to take
> >them from
> > > the PDF.
> > >
> > > Peter
> > >
> > > >Hi!
> > > >I would say one free trenchcard or razorwire pr infantrycompany
> >only,
> > > >and half price for other fortifications.
> > > >
> > > >This leaves one problem though, where shall theese
fortifications
> >be
> > > >set up? The setupzone is normally 40 cm from the tableedge, but
> > > >objective point tend to be in the middle.
> > > >
> > > >Even if you set some OPs in the PDF setupzone it is very
difficult
> > > >for the PDF player to get enough VPs to win the battle. The
oposing
> > > >player can easily pick a number of OPs and only have to break
a few
> > > >PDF units to win the game.
> > > >
> > > >My suggestion i this:
> > > >Enlarge the PDF setupzone to 60 cm and allow the PDF player to
> >start
> > > >with holding at least 2, but no more than 4 OPs. Further, I
think
> > > >that PDF should be the ONLY force that should be permitted
allies.
> >We
> > > >can adopt the Slann-rules for allies, allowing up to, but not
more
> > > >than 25% of the force to be an allied. This allied has to be an
> > > >imperial force. The guildlines would be as follows:
> > > >
> > > >The PDF forces can start up to 60 cm from the tableedge, the
allied
> > > >force must start from the usual 40 cm.
> > > >
> > > >Size of battle
> > > >Up to 2000 points; 3 OPs held at the start of the game, 2 if
allied
> > > >forces is present.
> > > >
> > > >Over 2000 points; 4 OPs held at the start of the game, 3 if
allied
> > > >forces is present.
> > > >
> > > >What do you all think of this?
> > > >
> > > >Eivind
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >--- In netepic_at_egroups.com, jyrki.saari_at_n... wrote:
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: EXT dardman [mailto:dardman_at_n...]
> > > > > > Sent: 29. November 2000 17:02
> > > > > > To: netepic_at_egroups.com
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] Planetary Defence Forces
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why not half price. They have poor morales, old machinery
and
> > > >lack the
> > > > > > normal traing of the IG.
> > > > > > Darius
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Ok with me. And besides, they are SUPPOSED to sit tight in
> > > >fortifications
> > > > > 'til(sp?) Space Marines arrive.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jyrki Saari
> > > > >
> > > > > -There is no such thing as free lunch because eating takes
time
> >and
> > > >time is
> > > > > money.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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