Re: [NetEpic ML] Titan CC

From: Peter Ramos <primarch_at_...>
Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 13:26:58 -0500

Hi!

Oops! Well that what I get for not having unlimited memory! <grin>

It begs the question, should this still stand? In any event, I would not
apply this to the necron titan.

Of course I don't know what the follow up was, too many things said like
this die on the vine, this may be one. I think at this point in time
with the changes made and what we know, I'd leave self-repair function
against any physical attack regardless of source, it is a physical force
after all.

Opinions?

Peter

nils.saugen_at_... wrote:

> And here it is post; 7489 :)
>
> [snip]
> Hi!
>
> I concurr that the bolt of change would deny the necron unit self
> repair. Of course now we need to be specific on what it can save against
> and what it cannot.
>
> I'd say the following: "Necron self repair works against any attack that
> is NOT psychic in nature or close combat".
>
> How's that?
>
> Peter
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Karlsen Rune [mailto:rune.karlsen_at_...]
> Sent: 5. mars 2001 08:31
> To: 'netepic_at_yahoogroups.com'
> Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] Titan CC
>
>
> Hi!
>
> Thanks for clarifying this. Nils and Trygve (who played
> the united chaos forces) were 100% sure that i didnt
> get a save. There was some talk about an article
> posted here or something. I dont remember, i was
> really tired after having played for 14 hours...
> Nils being a more experienced player than
> me, i caved in. Of course, im sure Nils didnt intend
> to cheat me, but im rather pissed at him none the less...
>
> Rune
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Peter Ramos [mailto:primarch_at_...]
>> Sent: 4. mars 2001 18:19
>> To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] Titan CC
>>
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> First of all, the necron titan has no shields so I assume you are
>> referring to it self-repair ability. The self-repair cannot
>> be bypassed
>> by any poer/rule I am aware of. So after you get hit and
>> determine hit
>> location, it would get its self repair. The bottom line is
>> this IS its
>> defense against some weapons since they negate his armor
>> save. So on a
>> 3+ you ignore the beam of power. Most armies have at least
>> one weapons
>> like this. During my game with Darius his squat cyclops weapon acted
>> like a "beam of power", my only defense was its self repair
>> and that was
>> at 4+, but still made it. A 3+ fixed repair roll goes a long
>> way against
>> this.
>>
>> My curiousity is why it was rules that you were not entitled
>> to a repair
>> save? Whats the rational? Nothing it epic negates
>> repair/regeneration,
>> besides close combat.
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> Karlsen Rune wrote:
>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> A question about this. The Chaos Primarch Magnus the Red
>>
>> has a physical
>>
>>> psychic
>>> attack, 2+ -6 100cms range, +3 damage on
>>
>> titans/praetorians. Now, this
>>
>>> wouldnt
>>> be so bad if one had shields, but according to our chaos
>>
>> opponents, the
>>
>>> repair
>>> shield function of the Necron Titan doesnt work against
>>
>> this. The result is,
>>
>>> on a hit
>>> on any location (which isnt hard, just roll a 2+ and point
>>
>> at the middle),
>>
>>> the titan
>>> gets a save at 7+ (at best). The roll of the damage die has
>>
>> to be 3 to
>>
>>> destroy the
>>> titan. My question is, do you think this is fair? A below
>>
>> average roll will
>>
>>> always
>>> destroy the Necron titan. According to our esteemed chaos
>>
>> players, i didnt
>>
>>> get the 3+ psy save, because it was a physcial psychic
>>
>> attack, and i didnt
>>
>>> get the 3+ shield repair (this had apparently been resolved
>>
>> some months ago
>>
>>> in some discussion or other with Darius, i dont know which
>>
>> one). I thought
>>
>>> Physical psychic attacks was some kind of force attacking
>>
>> your person,
>>
>>> like a weapon, on psychic in origin. Now, if thats so, how
>>
>> come i didnt get
>>
>>> my 3+ shield save?
>>> Now, the titan costs 750 points, and Magnus costs 300. Do the math.
>>>
>>> Rune
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Peter Ramos [mailto:primarch_at_...]
>>> Sent: 2. mars 2001 14:19
>>> To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] Titan CC
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> You are correct I did mention that. Please edit the titan's
>>
>> template to
>>
>>> reflect that. The psy save is 3+, like all other slann titans.
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> Trygve Bj�rnstad wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I thought Peter mentioned a save of 3+, but maybee this was
>>
>> against normal
>>
>>> attacks?
>>>
>>> Trygve
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Karlsen Rune [ mailto:rune.karlsen_at_...
>>> <mailto:rune.karlsen_at_...> ]
>>> Sent: 2. mars 2001 09:20
>>> To: ' netepic_at_yahoogroups.com <mailto:netepic_at_yahoogroups.com> '
>>> Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] Titan CC
>>>
>>>
>>> It probably should..
>>>
>>> Rune
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nils.saugen_at_... <mailto:nils.saugen_at_...> [
>>> mailto:nils.saugen_at_... <mailto:nils.saugen_at_...> ]
>>> Sent: 2. mars 2001 09:01
>>> To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com <mailto:netepic_at_yahoogroups.com>
>>> Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] Titan CC
>>>
>>>
>>> Hmmm, my guess is that it ought to have a psychic savingthrow
>>> of 4+ versus
>>> non physical psychic attacks.!
>>>
>>> ..!
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Karlsen Rune [ mailto:rune.karlsen_at_...
>>> <mailto:rune.karlsen_at_...> ]
>>> Sent: 2. mars 2001 08:53
>>> To: ' netepic_at_yahoogroups.com <mailto:netepic_at_yahoogroups.com> '
>>> Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] Titan CC
>>>
>>>
>>> Nope, not that im aware of. It doesnt say, and it
>>> has no shields, so it in effect has no defence against
>>> this...
>>>
>>> Rune
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nils.saugen_at_... <mailto:nils.saugen_at_...> [
>>> mailto:nils.saugen_at_... <mailto:nils.saugen_at_...> ]
>>> Sent: 2. mars 2001 08:46
>>> To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com <mailto:netepic_at_yahoogroups.com>
>>> Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] Titan CC
>>>
>>>
>>> The Necron Titan has a saving throw versu!
>>>
>>> s!
>>>
>>> non physical
>>>
>>> psychic saves
>>>
>>> doesn't it?
>>>
>>> Nils
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Karlsen Rune [ mailto:rune.karlsen_at_...
>>> <mailto:rune.karlsen_at_...> ]
>>> Sent: 2. mars 2001 08:36
>>> To: ' netepic_at_yahoogroups.com <mailto:netepic_at_yahoogroups.com> '
>>> Subject: [NetEpic ML] Titan CC
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> Can someone please summarise the rules for how infantry etc.
>>> attack Titans? It'd be great with a clarification :)
>>>
>>> Also, is it possible for chaos to take over robots/necrons with
>>> their power? Dont remember what its called, but it allows
>>> it to take over "any unit" within 25cms. When you can put
>>> the buggers in rhino's and charge 50cms with them in
>>> the first round, 25cms is alot, and affecting any unit then
>>> is just downright cheesy. It would mean f.ex, that
>>> the Necron !
>>>
>>> Ti!
>>>
>>> tan (which has no shields) could be
>>> taken over without a save. Now, thats just plain
>>> old Jarlsberg im smelling! :)
>>> Also, the chaos rot power says it affects all units.
>>> Were these cards made before Praetorians/Titans came
>>> into the picture? Once again, you charge your legion
>>> 50cms, and everything within 15cms of it has to
>>> save or die when the power is used. Everything!
>>> Now, in a large battle, say 10k, this will be devastating.
>>> Im sure the rot is really the reek of really old, moldy cheese ;)
>>> Id like some clarifications on the chaos powers, and
>>> what they can and cant do please :)
>>>
>>> Rune
>>>
>>>
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