Re: [NetEpic ML] Titan CC

From: Hellreich <helreich_at_...>
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 19:56:37 -0800

oooo you , that is it beat him with a wet frog hehehehe :-)
----- Original Message -----
From: <nils.saugen_at_...>
To: <netepic_at_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 2:48 AM
Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] Titan CC


> I stand to be corrected........
>
> This was regarding the Bolt of Change which is a Greater Deamon of Tzeench
> power, which the Necrons cant save from. (Killed units are transformed
into
> Chaos Spawns, and is a non physical psychic power)And the Beam of Power
> (Which is a pysical psycic power). I've made the mistake of mixing these
two
> Tzeench powers. I'm truly sorry.
>
> Nils
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Karlsen Rune [mailto:rune.karlsen_at_...]
> Sent: 5. mars 2001 11:36
> To: 'netepic_at_yahoogroups.com'
> Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] Titan CC
>
>
> I think what Peter meant here was non-physical psychic
> powers. I can see no reason why it shouldnt help against
> a physical psychic power. Peter?
>
> Rune
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nils.saugen_at_... [mailto:nils.saugen@...]
> > Sent: 5. mars 2001 11:31
> > To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] Titan CC
> >
> >
> > And here it is post; 7489 :)
> >
> > [snip]
> > Hi!
> >
> > I concurr that the bolt of change would deny the necron unit self
> > repair. Of course now we need to be specific on what it can
> > save against
> > and what it cannot.
> >
> > I'd say the following: "Necron self repair works against any
> > attack that
> > is NOT psychic in nature or close combat".
> >
> > How's that?
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Karlsen Rune [mailto:rune.karlsen_at_...]
> > Sent: 5. mars 2001 08:31
> > To: 'netepic_at_yahoogroups.com'
> > Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] Titan CC
> >
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > Thanks for clarifying this. Nils and Trygve (who played
> > the united chaos forces) were 100% sure that i didnt
> > get a save. There was some talk about an article
> > posted here or something. I dont remember, i was
> > really tired after having played for 14 hours...
> > Nils being a more experienced player than
> > me, i caved in. Of course, im sure Nils didnt intend
> > to cheat me, but im rather pissed at him none the less...
> >
> > Rune
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Peter Ramos [mailto:primarch_at_...]
> > > Sent: 4. mars 2001 18:19
> > > To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] Titan CC
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > First of all, the necron titan has no shields so I assume you are
> > > referring to it self-repair ability. The self-repair cannot
> > > be bypassed
> > > by any poer/rule I am aware of. So after you get hit and
> > > determine hit
> > > location, it would get its self repair. The bottom line is
> > > this IS its
> > > defense against some weapons since they negate his armor
> > > save. So on a
> > > 3+ you ignore the beam of power. Most armies have at least
> > > one weapons
> > > like this. During my game with Darius his squat cyclops
> > weapon acted
> > > like a "beam of power", my only defense was its self repair
> > > and that was
> > > at 4+, but still made it. A 3+ fixed repair roll goes a long
> > > way against
> > > this.
> > >
> > > My curiousity is why it was rules that you were not entitled
> > > to a repair
> > > save? Whats the rational? Nothing it epic negates
> > > repair/regeneration,
> > > besides close combat.
> > >
> > > Peter
> > >
> > > Karlsen Rune wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi!
> > > >
> > > > A question about this. The Chaos Primarch Magnus the Red
> > > has a physical
> > > > psychic
> > > > attack, 2+ -6 100cms range, +3 damage on
> > > titans/praetorians. Now, this
> > > > wouldnt
> > > > be so bad if one had shields, but according to our chaos
> > > opponents, the
> > > > repair
> > > > shield function of the Necron Titan doesnt work against
> > > this. The result is,
> > > > on a hit
> > > > on any location (which isnt hard, just roll a 2+ and point
> > > at the middle),
> > > > the titan
> > > > gets a save at 7+ (at best). The roll of the damage die has
> > > to be 3 to
> > > > destroy the
> > > > titan. My question is, do you think this is fair? A below
> > > average roll will
> > > > always
> > > > destroy the Necron titan. According to our esteemed chaos
> > > players, i didnt
> > > > get the 3+ psy save, because it was a physcial psychic
> > > attack, and i didnt
> > > > get the 3+ shield repair (this had apparently been resolved
> > > some months ago
> > > > in some discussion or other with Darius, i dont know which
> > > one). I thought
> > > > Physical psychic attacks was some kind of force attacking
> > > your person,
> > > > like a weapon, on psychic in origin. Now, if thats so, how
> > > come i didnt get
> > > > my 3+ shield save?
> > > > Now, the titan costs 750 points, and Magnus costs 300. Do
> > the math.
> > > >
> > > > Rune
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Peter Ramos [mailto:primarch_at_...]
> > > > Sent: 2. mars 2001 14:19
> > > > To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] Titan CC
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi!
> > > >
> > > > You are correct I did mention that. Please edit the titan's
> > > template to
> > > > reflect that. The psy save is 3+, like all other slann titans.
> > > >
> > > > Peter
> > > >
> > > > Trygve Bj�rnstad wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I thought Peter mentioned a save of 3+, but maybee this was
> > > against normal
> > > > attacks?
> > > >
> > > > Trygve
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Karlsen Rune [ mailto:rune.karlsen_at_...
> > > > <mailto:rune.karlsen_at_...> ]
> > > > Sent: 2. mars 2001 09:20
> > > > To: ' netepic_at_yahoogroups.com <mailto:netepic_at_yahoogroups.com> '
> > > > Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] Titan CC
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It probably should..
> > > >
> > > > Rune
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: nils.saugen_at_... <mailto:nils.saugen@...> [
> > > > mailto:nils.saugen_at_... <mailto:nils.saugen@...> ]
> > > > Sent: 2. mars 2001 09:01
> > > > To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com <mailto:netepic_at_yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] Titan CC
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hmmm, my guess is that it ought to have a psychic savingthrow
> > > > of 4+ versus
> > > > non physical psychic attacks.!
> > > >
> > > > ..!
> > > >
> > > > ...
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Karlsen Rune [ mailto:rune.karlsen_at_...
> > > > <mailto:rune.karlsen_at_...> ]
> > > > Sent: 2. mars 2001 08:53
> > > > To: ' netepic_at_yahoogroups.com <mailto:netepic_at_yahoogroups.com> '
> > > > Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] Titan CC
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Nope, not that im aware of. It doesnt say, and it
> > > > has no shields, so it in effect has no defence against
> > > > this...
> > > >
> > > > Rune
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: nils.saugen_at_... <mailto:nils.saugen@...> [
> > > > mailto:nils.saugen_at_... <mailto:nils.saugen@...> ]
> > > > Sent: 2. mars 2001 08:46
> > > > To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com <mailto:netepic_at_yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] Titan CC
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The Necron Titan has a saving throw versu!
> > > >
> > > > s!
> > > >
> > > > non physical
> > > >
> > > > psychic saves
> > > >
> > > > doesn't it?
> > > >
> > > > Nils
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Karlsen Rune [ mailto:rune.karlsen_at_...
> > > > <mailto:rune.karlsen_at_...> ]
> > > > Sent: 2. mars 2001 08:36
> > > > To: ' netepic_at_yahoogroups.com <mailto:netepic_at_yahoogroups.com> '
> > > > Subject: [NetEpic ML] Titan CC
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi!
> > > >
> > > > Can someone please summarise the rules for how infantry etc.
> > > > attack Titans? It'd be great with a clarification :)
> > > >
> > > > Also, is it possible for chaos to take over robots/necrons with
> > > > their power? Dont remember what its called, but it allows
> > > > it to take over "any unit" within 25cms. When you can put
> > > > the buggers in rhino's and charge 50cms with them in
> > > > the first round, 25cms is alot, and affecting any unit then
> > > > is just downright cheesy. It would mean f.ex, that
> > > > the Necron !
> > > >
> > > > Ti!
> > > >
> > > > tan (which has no shields) could be
> > > > taken over without a save. Now, thats just plain
> > > > old Jarlsberg im smelling! :)
> > > > Also, the chaos rot power says it affects all units.
> > > > Were these cards made before Praetorians/Titans came
> > > > into the picture? Once again, you charge your legion
> > > > 50cms, and everything within 15cms of it has to
> > > > save or die when the power is used. Everything!
> > > > Now, in a large battle, say 10k, this will be devastating.
> > > > Im sure the rot is really the reek of really old, moldy cheese ;)
> > > > Id like some clarifications on the chaos powers, and
> > > > what they can and cant do please :)
> > > >
> > > > Rune
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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