Hi!
This was sort of what I thought too. But it seems people would rather
equate no morale stat to immunity to all morale related powers. IN the
end its no big deal, since the number of morale based powers (that
grant you a save mind you, if the power does not grant a save you are
affected regardless your morale status), are few with 3-5 in teh whole
chaos rules. A small concession given the amount of such units in most
armies. In case of our friends the necron, its foolish for your enemy
to depend on morale attacks anyway, after all their "charm" comes from
zero emotion.
Peter
--- In netepic_at_y..., "Hellreich" <helreich_at_d...> wrote:
> OK I'll be the stick in the mud then hehehehe :-) The lure of
Slannash also effects machines. Read the fluff, so even if they are
robots they should be allowed to fail some Chaos powers but I think
their morale value that they have is fine.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: nils.saugen_at_s...
> To: netepic_at_y...
> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 6:07 AM
> Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] Kroxigors
>
>
> Hmmm, according to the fluff Necrons are infact sentient robots,
they have no fear since this is removed from their program. I would
wote for keeping them without a moralscore.
>
> Nils
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trygve Bjørnstad [mailto:trygve_at_n...]
> Sent: 15. mars 2001 14:59
> To: netepic_at_y...
> Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] Kroxigors
>
>
> I'm in! (what a shock:-))
>
> Trygve
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eivind Borgeteien [mailto:eivind.borgeteien_at_c...]
> Sent: 15. mars 2001 15:05
> To: netepic_at_y...
> Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] Kroxigors
>
>
> This would work for me, but Im not quite sure on wether we
should let the necrons be woulnerable for chaos attack or not.
>
> We could perhaps give them a moral value of 1. That way they
dont fall back but have a slight chance of being affected by the chaos
powers.
>
> Im sure Rune will disagree on this point :-) but what does the
rest of you say?
>
> Eivind
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: peter ramos
> To: netepic_at_y...
> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 2:21 PM
> Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] Kroxigors
>
>
> Hi!
>
> Hmm.. I seem to have misinterpreted the desires of the group
on this issue. The original problem came to pass regarding if
Necron's, who are fearless (no morale value) would be affected by
morale based powers. I thought that it was desired that they would be
(no I see that interpretation was wrong) and changed the wordig to
reflect that.
>
> I have no problem with re-wording it so that unit units who
are fearless are immune to morale based powers. It seems Necron and
non-Necron players alike want this (of course it extends to fearless
units of all armies).
>
> Now the wording will be as follows: Units without morale
values (fearless) are NEVER required to make morale checks or save
versus powers that use the units morale as a saving throw.
>
> The wording in the chaos books will all revert back to
morale checks (there is no need for a morale save now).
>
> The rules are much simpler this way, especially from a
wording point of view.
>
> It seems that is what is wanted. If there is a dissenting
opinion let be known now.
>
> Opinions?
>
> Peter
>
> >From: nils.saugen_at_s...
> >Reply-To: netepic_at_y...
> >To: netepic_at_y...
> >Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] Kroxigors
> >Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 07:33:22 +0100
> >
> >Hi Peter,
> >
> >Yes I know this is how you think it should work, and if
thats the way
> >NetEpic wants to go that is just fine with me!
> >
> >However, I think that is an misinterpetation of the
intention behind the
> >rules, so I disagree with your solution!
> >
> >We hav just decided to go the other way around in our
group! Defencive
> >powers takes precedence, thus a confessor, inquisitor, mork
head (or was it
> >gork) and other powers that makes units immune to
moraltests infact, gives
> >the unit a moralscore of "-" thus making it immune to all
types of
> >moralbased checks. You may call it a house rule, no score
no check.
> >
> >Nils
> >
> >PS: IMHO there should be no doubt on this topic in the
first place, the
> >wording from GW is pretty Clear! So this is IMO a change in
the rules and
> >ought to have been put through a poll!
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: peter ramos [mailto:ramospeter_at_h...]
> >Sent: 13. mars 2001 14:41
> >To: netepic_at_y...
> >Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] Kroxigors
> >
> >
> >
> >Hi!
> >
> >First I think that wording is confusing. It should read,
the Kroxigor is
> >immune to fear and terror and non-physical psychic attacks.
This wording is
> >direct and to the point.
> >
> >I'm not sure what you mean Nils, I thought we cleared this
up. The unit
> >protected by a confessor may be immune to morale "checks",
but not morale
> >saves. Any unit with no morale, is immune to morale checks,
but still rolls
> >a morale save with a value of "1" (this was placed in the
revised core rule
> >section). Since most chaos powers still effect on a save
roll of one, even
> >unit with no morale value can still be affected.
> >
> >I thought the wording was clear on this. Is it?
> >
> >Peter
> >
> >
> > >From: nils.saugen_at_s...
> > >Reply-To: netepic_at_y...
> > >To: netepic_at_y...
> > >Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] Kroxigors
> > >Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:26:20 +0100
> > >
> > >Oh MAMA
> > >
> > >PAPA has got a brand new bag of GOODIES!!!!!!!
> > >
> > >Once we are back at the chaos morale/power topic. I read
through the
> > >confessor rules again. To me it seems that a detachment
joined by a
> > >confessor loose its moralscore. So for all practical
reasons that infantry
> > >unit has a morale of "-". Meaning it indeed is immune to
all types of moral
> >
> > >tests, terrortests or whatyoumaycall'em.... I also
suspects this applies to
> >
> > >the Inquisitors.... Wording in the Space Marines Armies
of the Imperium is:
> >
> > >"any imperial unit within 25cm of the Inquisitor will
automatically pass
> >any
> > >moraltest" remember this is from the days before one
differed between moral
> >
> > >checks for breaking and terrorstest. Any moral test
beeing the key frase,
> >as
> > >this would indicate the same effect as for the Confessor.
> > >
> > >Further neither the Connfessor nor the Inquisitor has got
a moral score!!!!
> >
> > >
> > >Nils
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Hellreich [mailto:helreich_at_d...]
> > >Sent: 13. mars 2001 17:06
> > >To: netepic_at_y...
> > >Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] Kroxigors
> > >
> > >
> > >it means that they negate the powers of the Chaos units.
Like Pleague
> > >Marines have nurgle rot, this is then negated. It only
works for the auras
> > >or specific chaos cards. Auras are things that make you
test for morale
> >when
> > >within a set cm range, since the Kroxigors are just to
dumb, and protected
> > >by the warp field from the warp claws they never need to
test for any of
> >the
> > >auras.
> > >Examples are:
> > >the Primarchs powers are useless against them
> > >Plague bearers powers are useless
> > >Chaos specific Marine cards are useless
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Karlsen Rune"
> > >To:
> > >Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 10:53 AM
> > >Subject: [NetEpic ML] Kroxigors
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi!
> > > >
> > > > Just a little question : When it says that kroxigors
ignore any
> > > > demonic auras, exactly what does that mean? They have
> > > > no weapons, so they can't FF on a charging demon anyways.
> > > > Does it only mean they are immune to the morale/terror
> > > > checks?
> > > >
> > > > Rune
> > > >
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