Hi!
As for nids with multiple wounds, I can see your point. If you cant bring them to negative wounds they would always regenerate and thus be impossible to kill.
But I cant really see the difference between a bloodletter and the carnifex. Both can only fail one save before they are laid on the side to regenerate in the end phase.
I havent talked it over with all of my groupmembers, but as it stands now I think we will play it the way that the opponent can shoot at regenerating nids with multiple wounds, and not those with just one wound.
Eivind
>
> Fra: Peter Ramos <primarch_at_...>
> Dato: 2001/05/21 Mon PM 06:25:46 CEST
> Til: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> Emne: Re: [NetEpic ML] Re: A nid-necron camparison
>
> Hi!
>
> I know this may seem like argueing semantics, but its really not. Having
> wounds is a big advantage for the tyranids. You cannot compare the bulk
> and genetic engineering of a carnifex to a Necron. A Necron is sentient
> but not alive, while in some circumstances that is a big boon, when it
> comes to taking damage, even with high technology, a biological entity
> has many advantages over a machine (call me biased, but as a physican, I
> marvel at what organism can do). A necron may be a marvel, but rip out
> its CPU and its over. A biological entity, especially bred for war like
> the tyranids, you literally have to blast it to pieces to kill it. Its
> bred to ignore all damage to achieve its goal.Blow off its head and it
> still comes at you. Thus a carnifex, with only one wound is more
> powerful than units in epic with one "wound". A necrons ability to
> repair is superficially similar and in game terms identical, but the
> rational is different, more shots into a necron, dont do much, since
> that first shot may have hit that "vital" part that its self-repair wont
> fix (thus the save), once damaged how does the enemy know where to aim
> further shots? Even shooting it to pieces may not hit that vital "CPU"
> thus the necron gets up, note the necron may not be intact, although it
> is combat effective. In the case of the Carnifex you shoot at it more
> since as a biological entity you can guess where it can hurt it and only
> when its little fleshy non-moving pieces you'll stop.
>
> One can argue this both ways of course, its diffcult to rationalize
> "sci-fantasy", but in game terms some tyranids have wounds and all other
> units in epic DO NOT, this confers tyranids their toughness. Note the
> Necron's situation is not unique, bloodletters regenerate, yet as with
> necron you cannot keep firing in to them, as with necrons they DO NOT
> have wounds.
>
> Peter
>
> Eivind Borgeteien wrote:
>
> > My thoughts below
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <primarch_at_...>
> > To: <netepic_at_yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 6:27 PM
> > Subject: [NetEpic ML] Re: A nid-necron camparison
> >
> >
> >> Hi!
> >>
> >> Although both use regeneration, only tyranids have wounds though, even
> >> a carnifex who has one wound could get more shots pumped into it to
> >> guarantee it doesn't come back. Necron dont have wounds, they get hit
> >> and immediately regenerate or are removed.
> >
> >
> > ---> This isnt entirely correct is it? The necrons dont immediately
> > regenerate, they do so in the end phase. This leaves them turned on the side
> > during the combatphase just like the nids.
> >
> > I can picture a battle, necrons vs nids where the carnifex is being shot,
> > turned on the side trying to grow back on his feet. A few metres away is a
> > necron mech doing the same. The nids cant shoot at the regenerating mech,
> > but the necrons can shoot the carnifex to meatballs.
> >
> > This is not a question of wounds because the situation here is just the
> > same, so Im looking for some answers on whether it is possible to shoot at
> > units regeneratig or not.
> >
> > Eivind
> >
> > Theres no point to pump
> >
> >> more shots into it, because it either regenerates all damage or none,
> >> unlike tyranids that can "repair" different levels of damage. The
> >> necron ability is no where near as good as the tyranid bio-ability.
> >>
> >> Peter
> >>
> >>
> >> --- In netepic_at_y..., <eivind.borgeteien_at_c...> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi
> >>> Some of the nid units have the ability to regenrate. It also says
> >>
> >> that the oponent can continue to shoot it even after it is down so it
> >> gaines negative wounds and thus have to make more regen-rolls to
> >> survive.
> >>
> >>> This strikes me as somewhat weird as you can not do this to necron
> >>
> >> units with the regen ability.
> >>
> >>> I think the same rule should aply to all regenerating units. Is it a
> >>
> >> typo somewhere here?
> >>
> >>> Eivind
> >>
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