Re: [Epic] Net Epic

From: Chris Swearingen <tall-guy_at_...>
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 17:14:17 -0800

> > > I suggest that movement regarding broken
> > > units be taken immediately upon breaking.
> >
> > I think all movement should be done at the same time. Just say that
units
> > on "fall back" orders don't count for holding objectives. I have a
faint
> > suspicion this might be in the TL rules, anybody know?
>
> Not that I found (I checked briefly). But I like the idea.

i like the idea of an immediate base move away from the enemy and towards
cover
(non-objective cover, that is)

>
> > > crack under the strain you dont get any free rides as far as Vp's,
also
> > > broken units may never claim objectives by be within 15 cm of them.
Of
> > ^^^^^^
> > Do you mean "broken" as in (a) more than half destroyed or (b) on fall
back
> > orders? I agree with this if you mean (b).
>
> Same here.

agree, if the unit has not rallied it should not be able to claim any VPs

>
> > > Secondly, it bothers me that units away from any command unit can
easily
> > > regroup if the morale roll is made, not that it cannot be done, but
it
> > > should happen under stiff penalties. This also encourages proper use
of
> > > HQ units as ralling points( as well as give them a more useful role
).
> >
> > That's what the base morale value is for! HQ stands generally give a
bonus
> > for this. Don't forget that there are squad leaders and platoon leaders
in
> > the detachments.

definitely! maybe a bonus for rallying around a command stand,
but i cann't see a minus for not having one...

>
> Good point. Most (all?) command units give that +1 to morale, which is
> effective enough. Armies that require stricter command (IG, Orks)
> already have rules for their command units.
>
> > > Thirdly, certain feats really need guts to accomplish. Charging a
tank
> > > or other troop stands is what your trained for, but tackling titans ,
> > > super heavies, and greater deamons- I think at least some morale
checks
> > > are in order! maybe even at a penalty.
> >
> > Ok, maybe a morale check at the base morale level could be required to
engage
> > SH's, Titan's, etc. I don't like the idea of penalties.
>
> Don't Greater Demons already require a morale check? Personally, while
> morale checks might be required vs. Titans, I don't think that super
> heavies should necessarily require morale checks across the board.
> Perhaps certain units (Leviathan or Colossus) but other units would
> become far too powerful if they couldn't be pulled down in CC (Knights,
> for example. Of course, since Knights aren't coming back, does it
> matter? :] )
>
> > > Fouthly, is firing at a unit that charges you a given if you have
first
> > > fire orders? doesn't it require disipline to accomplish such a task?
> >
> > Definitely should be allowed to do this without a test!!

strongly agree!! this is what final protective fire is all about!
lay out the lead welcome mat and prepare to repell boarders!

> Again I agree. IMHO, it is safe to assume enough discipline to
accomplish
> such a task unless the charging unit is exceptional (GD, etc.). Even
> Orks and IG are still soldiers and wouldn't be shaken by the sight of
> normal troopers charging at them. Now, if they were Juggernaughts,
> that might be different....

agree that there could be a requirement for the "big uglies" of the game

Chris Swearingen
tall-guy_at_...

"my brain hurts!"
"well,... it will have to come out then!"

PS - sorry if i get a bit worked up about the more military aspects of
this,
but i've been medical support for the U.S.M.C. for the past four years
and the grunts have sort of influenced my thinking in places...
Received on Tue Feb 11 1997 - 01:14:17 UTC