Re: [Epic] Battle Report !!!LONG!!! and chaos army lists.

From: john <tzeench_at_...>
Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 20:07:09 -0700

It's nice to see a well detailed battle report. Espicially one of chaos vs
imperial. This is what usually occurs between Steve and I. I like to make
a few comments on your army selection.
>
> No homegrown units or detachments were used.
>
> Chaos (2992 points, 67 morale)
> -----
> Magnus the Red - Supreme Commander 58 pts
> * Daemon Prince + psyker + skimmer

I take it you didn't use the new version of magnus that was discussed on
the list. That Deathray would have been useful versus the accursed
imperial army.

> Tac Warband - Chaos Marines 214 pts
> * Thousand Sons x6, Rhino x3
> * Silver Tower x4

Do you find that the silver towers just slow the rest of the detachment
down. I find in epic40K, speed to be essential.

> Assault Warband - Chaos Marines 262 pts
> * Chaos Lord in Rhino
> * Bezerkers x10, Rhino x5

Stupid beserkers. I have the worst luck with these. Either they fail to
assult due to blast markers, or they lose the assult and get themselves all
killed. I have the exact same detachment. I also don't use a psyker.
Very unkhornish. Unfortuantly it really hurts them. I have decided to use
daemons instead.
 
> Elite Warband - Chaos Marines 341 pts
> * Sorcerer of Tzeentch in Land Raider
> * Thousand Son Terminators x4, Land Raider x2
> * Chaos Dreadnought x4

I hate chaos dreadnoughts. They slow the whole unit down, cost alot and are
only really good in a defencive role. Have you found them usefull.

> Daemons of Tzeentch - Daemon 202 pts
> * Lord of Change
> * Flamers x5
> * Horrors x5

Again the horrors would make this unit so slow. I like to use just flamers
and lords of change.
>
> Daemons of Khorne - Daemon 214 pts
> * Bloodthirster
> * Flesh Hounds x10
>
> Chaos Marine Armor 235 pts
> * Land Raider x6
>
> Daemon Engine 181 pts
> * Khorne Engine x6
>
I have never used them in the new rules. I sold all of mine. I play
mostly tzeench and slaanesh now.

> Daemon Engine 325 pts
> * Chaos Artillery x6
>
> Chaos Flyer 180 pts
> * Doomwing x5

I like all of these detachments
 
> War Engine 225 pts
> * Lord of Battles with Death Storm, Chain Fist

How do you find the lord of battles. The imperial army has so many
deathrays I stopped taking my questors against them.
>
> War Engine 555 pts
> * Warlord Titan with Vortex, Death Ray, HWBx2
>
> Army Design Notes: I was looking to try something a little different.
> I decided to try a Chaos army that was "pure", in the sense that it
> would have no units of opposing powers. For this battle, I used a
> Tzeentch/Khorne force and took no Nurgle or Slaanesh units (i.e. no
> Contagions, Noise Marines, etc). I also wanted to try using a Daemon
> Prince supreme commander for a change. At this point, a theme for the
> army began to take shape and I left the human cultists and their
> support platforms at home. This was to be an invastion straight from
> the heart of the Eye of Terror, led by a former Space Marine Primarch.
> You won't find any wussy humans here. Overall I liked how most of the
> army worked, although the battle would have been much easier if I had
> brought along my Contagions and support platforms...
>
The last battle I fought was also 3000 points. Chaos vs tech guard. I
wasn't concerned about keeping the opposing gods apart. It did quite well.
 Steve was experimenting with a tech guard army. He didn't take any
artilley, just mostly warengines (If I recall correctly 1 warlord, 1
reaver, 6 super heavies(3 of each), 1 ordinatus(6*disropt one) and a
leviathon.) He also had some knights and a lemun russ armour detachment.

I like chaos marine units that are very mobile and fast daemon units. I
used against steve

14 noisemarines in rhinos.

15 thousand son marines, sorcer all in rhinos.

thousand son captain in land raider, 4 thousand son termi's in land raiders
and 3 predators.

10 fiends of slaanesh

10 flamers and 2 lord of change

6 slaanesh daemon knights

warlord titan with vortex missle, deathray, HWB and close combat weapon

6 chaos artillery

6 nurgle engines

5 doomwings

Any comments about army selection?
Tzeench
Received on Sun Aug 09 1998 - 03:07:09 UTC