Hi,
Thanks for the feedback. I think we should have a complete list
of the chaos powers that can be cancelled by a psycher with
that sort of power. We have a very creative chaos player (*wave*
Trygve :), he always follows the wording on a card to the letter.
Maybe the chaos cards need to be updated somewhat?
Rune
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Ramos [mailto:primarch_at_...]
Sent: 31. august 2001 22:53
To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] PSY VS CHAOS
Hi!
Rune is right all chaos powers are considered psychic in nature. So
called "mutations" should not be given a modern cognotions, since chaos
mutaions occur by exposure to raw chaos energy. Chaos energy is derived
from the warp which is psychic by definition.
Now pre-empting some questions here are some clarifications:
1. "just becuase something is psychic you are not always entitled to a
psychic save". This means unless the unit is DIRECTLY targeted by the
chaos power (be it single bolt or area effect) it is NOT entitled to a
psy-save. A unit of grey knights can use its psy-save to thwart
Mortarion's death wind of teh Thousand sons's vortex chaos reward, but
it could not nullify "long legs" given to a chaos unit since it is not
the target.
2. "Not all chaos powers can be nullified" If a unit has a power to
nullify psychic powers it only works against powers still in effect, in
other words a power that has duration like Eldritch storm for example.
You could NOT for example nullify a chaos card giving a unit more CAF
since this is instantaneous, but you could nullify the Thousand sons
vortex since that remains on the board until nullified or disappears.
Peter
Karlsen Rune wrote:
> Hi,
>
> My take on this is that all powers in NetEpic has to adhere to the
> corerules. If there are any effects or powers which aren't covered
> by some sort of rule, they have no place in the game. Chaos powers,
> whether they are cards or gifts must be psychic in nature. As far
> as i know, there are no other options.
> I think we had this discussion earlier on, when i debated for giving
> Slann Titans a psy save. They had no shields which gave them a save,
> and i was horrified at the possibility of losing a 2500 point titan
> to a chaos power without getting any sort of save. The solution was
> to give Slann Titans 3+ pyschic save. From this i gathered that all
> chaos cards/gifts were psychic powers.
>
> Rune
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nils.saugen_at_... [mailto:nils.saugen@...]
> Sent: 31. august 2001 10:41
> To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [NetEpic ML] PSY VS CHAOS
>
>
> Hi,
>
> A new debate????
>
> This question has possibly been raised before. However, since I don't know
> the answer to it, I seek the advice of the esteemed members of this
> council!
>
>
> The right honourable gentleman Rune and I have been discussing wheter
> or not
> the chaos reward cards is a psychic power.
> My position is that they should not be considered psychic powers, as their
> effect is a result of the unstable influnce of chaos. I think the same
> should apply to the Legion Gifts, but not to the powers of the Greater
> Deamons. At least this is how I've always percieved it. Am I right?
>
> Nils
>
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