Hi!
Hmmm. you got a point there, I did not read that power for the
Astropath, the clarifications are mostly for the Slann's nullify ability.
I have reviewed the Astropath's power and come to the conclusion that it
is too powerful, its too long range and it gets a too large a bonus over
psykers that the fluff indicates are better at psychics than the
astropath, like Warlocks and Librarians.
I would re-define the power as a range of 25cm (Astropaths are weak
psykers). If the power is from a card source (such as a chaos card) its
a straight d6 roll, if he wins its cancelled. If its from a psyker they
gain a +1 bonus the astropath none. If a greater demon or Great mage its
a +3 bonus. Its much weakened, but more appropriate, given that they are
cheap you could conceivably have a couple running around and offer good
protection (the range makes it a defensive not offensive as it should
be) to nearby supported units. Plus unlike nullification it can be used
every turn.
Comments.
Peter
Eivind Borgeteien wrote:
> Well, to my way of thinking, if an Astropath activates his
> cancellation power first, isnt ALL subsequent psychic powers used
> within his range nullified?
>
>
>
> Eivind
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> From:Peter Ramos <mailto:primarch_at_...>
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> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 1:48 PM
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> Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] Psychic revision: chaos part 1
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> Hi!
>
> Pretty much. Physical powers are usually instantaneous and their
> effects permanent so they usually can't be nullified. Up to this
> points I can't think of an exception.
>
> Peter
>
> Eivind Borgeteien wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> You can not nullify the Beam of Power. Does that mean that all
>> physical
>> psychic powers cant be nullified?
>>
>> Eivind
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Peter Ramos" <primarch_at_...> <mailto:primarch_at_...>
>> To: <netepic_at_yahoogroups.com> <mailto:netepic_at_yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 12:43 AM
>> Subject: [NetEpic ML] Psychic revision: chaos part 1
>>
>>
>> > Hi!
>> >
>> > In an effort to get our minds back on Netepic and away from sadder
>> > topics, below are the promised "clarifications" for psychic
>> powers and
>> > their relation to psy-save and nullifying powers. Once complete
>> they
>> > will form an addendum to each net epic book.
>> >
>> > I. Chaos
>> >
>> > Chaos cards
>> >
>> > 1. CAF cards
>> > Be-weaponed extremities
>> > Mace tails
>> > Tentacles
>> > Horns
>> > Multiple arms
>> > Beaked
>> > Poisonous bite
>> > Cloven hooves
>> > Long Spines
>> > Fangs
>> > Scorpion Tail
>> > Razor sharp fangs
>> >
>> > All the cards add +1 CAF to one detachment or model (keeping in
>> mind the
>> > restrictions of which models CAN receive them).
>> >
>> > Psy-saves DO NOT apply, since they don't target enemy units.
>> They also
>> > cannot be nullified later, since they are considered instantaneous
>> > effects. Besides there's no point in nullifying if you cant do
>> so before
>> > close combat.
>> >
>> > 2. Fear cards
>> > Skull face
>> > Transparent face
>> > Flaming skull face
>> > Rotting flesh
>> >
>> > These cards cause morale checks. Psy-saves DO apply. Also this
>> effect
>> > MAY be nullified since it lasts the turn. A nullified effect
>> means the
>> > unit is NO LONGER on fallback orders. Note a routed unit CANNOT be
>> > brought back, since routed is an immediate effect.
>> >
>> > 3. Cards that increases saving throws
>> > Warty skin
>> > Scaly skin
>> > Resilient
>> > These cards add +1 to the units base saving throw. Psy-saves do not
>> > apply, but since the effect lasts the turn it CAN be nullified
>> >
>> > 4. Cards that reduce CAF
>> > Uncontrollable flatulence
>> > Horrible stench
>> >
>> > These cards halve the CAF of enemy units in a radius. Psy-saves
>> apply,
>> > but only to the unit with the save, not to nearby friendly
>> units, unless
>> > it can extend the bonus to nearby units. They effect can be
>> nullified.
>> >
>> > 5. Direct attack cards
>> > Breaths fire
>> > Spits acid
>> > Enormously fat
>> >
>> > These cards directly attack one unit and are instantaneous in
>> effect.
>> > Psy-saves apply, but they cannot be nullified.
>> >
>> > 6. Special cards
>> > Telekinesis- psy-saves apply, cannot be dispelled, instantaneous
>> > Levitation- psy-saves do not apply CAN be nullified
>> > Wings- same as levitation
>> > Warp frenzy- psy-saves do not apply nor do nullification, its
>> > instantaneous, and the individual cards drawn as per their
>> description.
>> > Blood rage- psy-saves do not apply, nor does nullification
>> > Brightly patterned skin- psy-saves do not apply it may be nullified
>> > Invisibility- psy-saves do not apply, cannot be nullified
>> > Crystalline body- psy-save does not apply, cannot be nullified,
>> > instantaneous
>> > Hypnotic gaze- psy-saves apply can be nullified
>> > Burning body- psy-save applies for model with save, can be
>> nullified
>> > Iron hard skin- psy-saves and nullification do not apply.
>> > Plague bearer- psy-saves apply and can be nullified
>> > Duplication- psy-saves and nullification do not apply.
>> > Long legs- psy-saves and nullification do not apply.
>> > Growth- same as long legs
>> > Regenerations- same as long legs
>> > Eyestalks- same as long legs
>> >
>> > 7.Chaos marine cards
>> > Blood rage- psy-saves and nullification does not apply
>> > Lure of Slaanesh- psy-save and nullification apply
>> > Magic of Tzeentch- psy-saves and nullification apply
>> > Nurgle's Rot- psy-saves and nullification apply.
>> >
>> >
>> > Demonic Powers
>> >
>> > Aura of Slaanesh- psy-saves apply cannot be nullified since it is
>> > instantaneous
>> > Stream of corruption- psy-saves apply, cannot be nullified
>> > Bolt of change- psy-save applies can be nullified (spawn
>> disappears)
>> > Blood rage- psy-saves and nullification do not apply.
>> > Fearsome roar- psy-saves and nullification apply.
>> > Beam of power- psy-save applies, cannot be nullified
>> > Soporific Musk- psy-saves and nullification applies.
>> > Death wind- psy-saves apply, cannot be nullified
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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