This is a kind of psychic attack, so i think that units with psy save should have the possibility to resist the effect. If they have no psy-save, they cant resist it.
The range however, should decrease. 50 or 75 cm should be enough.
Eivind
>
> Fra: Trygve Bj�rnstad <trygve_at_...>
> Dato: 2001/09/18 Tue PM 02:16:23 CEST
> Til: <netepic_at_yahoogroups.com>
> Emne: RE: RE: [NetEpic ML] Psychic revision: chaos part 1
>
> Ref. the Beacon power:
> I think an option could be to give some sort of save against the power, for
> instance: "Unless the Greater Daemons, Psykers, or Eldar
> Wraithguard/Dreadnoughts wins a contest of will against the astropath, the
> unit may only fire at, or target psychic/magic powers at the Astropath..."
> The contest of will could work in the same manner as the purge daemon
> power...
>
> And 100cm range might be a tad much?
>
> Comments?
>
> Trygve
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nils.saugen_at_... [mailto:nils.saugen@...]
> Sent: 18. september 2001 08:44
> To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: RE: [NetEpic ML] Psychic revision: chaos part 1
>
>
> So the range of the Cancellation power is reduced to 50 cm, the rest stays
> as it is then.
>
> However, I think we need to have a look at the beacon power also.
>
> This is how it is today:
> Beacon: The Astropath becomes a flaring psychic beacon. For the rest of
> the turn, any Greater Daemons, Psykers, or Eldar Wraithguard/Dreadnoughts
> within 100cm may only fire at, or target
> psychic/magic powers at the Astropath (they may violate the normal Command
> Unit rule to do so - the Psychic Beacon makes the Astropath visible to all
> Psykers on the battlefield).
>
> What does it really mean, do you have to fire all powers/weapons at the
> astropath even though you know that the astropath is out of range? If it
> only applies to those within range, the point of the power is sort of lost.
> Since the astropath doesn't have a psychic savingthrow it would be quite
> foolish, although noble, to activate this power when units with non physical
> psy powers is within range. Of course I'm perfectly happy with this rule as
> it is, but I guess my opponents, especially Eldar and Chaos, might or rather
> will call it foul play. I can already hear them display their exellent
> knowledge of different types of cheeses.
>
> So suggestions anyone?
>
> Nils
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Albert Farr� Benet [mailto:cibernyam_at_...]
> Sent: 17. september 2001 19:12
> To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: RE: [NetEpic ML] Psychic revision: chaos part 1
>
>
> I agree, 75 cm all around is a third (or a half) of the main playing
> area. 50 cm should be enough. Also think that if you want to arrive to other
> psykers you'll have to advance the Astropath and risk losing it in CC or due
> to nearby weapons.
>
> Albert Farr�
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: eivind.borgeteien_at_...
> To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 3:20 PM
> Subject: Sv: RE: [NetEpic ML] Psychic revision: chaos part 1
>
>
> Hi!
>
> Fluffwise, I do agree, but in actual gaming we have great difficulties
> beating chaos. In our gaming group, chaos has only been beaten once, and
> that was by Slann 2.0 or something! (Gorgonzola vs Swizzerland ;-)
>
> Thats why I am against decreasing/deleting the unit too much. The 75
> cm range is perhaps a little too much, so 50 cm is OK by me.
>
> Eivind
> >
> > Fra: jyrki.saari_at_...
> > Dato: 2001/09/17 Mon PM 12:31:20 CEST
> > Til: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> > Emne: RE: [NetEpic ML] Psychic revision: chaos part 1
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ext Peter Ramos [mailto:primarch_at_...]
> > > Sent: 16. September 2001 15:53
> > > To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] Psychic revision: chaos part 1
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > Hmmm. you got a point there, I did not read that power for the
> > > Astropath, the clarifications are mostly for the Slann's
> > > nullify ability.
> > >
> > > I have reviewed the Astropath's power and come to the
> > > conclusion that it
> > > is too powerful, its too long range and it gets a too large a
> > > bonus over
> > > psykers that the fluff indicates are better at psychics than the
> > > astropath, like Warlocks and Librarians.
> > >
> > > I would re-define the power as a range of 25cm (Astropaths are
> weak
> > > psykers). If the power is from a card source (such as a chaos
> > > card) its
> > > a straight d6 roll, if he wins its cancelled. If its from a
> > > psyker they
> > > gain a +1 bonus the astropath none. If a greater demon or
> > > Great mage its
> > > a +3 bonus. Its much weakened, but more appropriate, given
> > > that they are
> > > cheap you could conceivably have a couple running around and
> > > offer good
> > > protection (the range makes it a defensive not offensive as it
> should
> > > be) to nearby supported units. Plus unlike nullification it
> > > can be used
> > > every turn.
> > >
> > > Comments.
> > >
> >
> > First of all, astropaths are not weak psykers. However, they are
> VERY
> > specialized, namely on astrotelepathy, eg. very long distance
> > communications. Nullification and psychic combat of ANY kind just
> isn't in
> > their turf and personally I really can't see them hopping around the
> > battlefield as they are just too valuable to risk. So my opinion is:
> delete
> > the astropath. Battlefield psychics is the role of librarians and
> adeptus
> > psykers.
> >
> >
> > > Peter
> > >
> >
> >
> > Jyrki Saari
> >
> > -There is no such thing as free lunch because eating takes time and
> time is
> > money.
> >
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