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-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Evans <brian.a.evans_at_...>
To: netepic_at_egroups.com <netepic_at_egroups.com>
Date: Sunday, 28 November 1999 20:02
Subject: [NetEpic ML] Re: NetEpic revision....LOOOOONG but read it and vote
>Absolutely NOT! Infantry may not enter close combat and still fire their
>weapons.
>
>1. "Models pinned in close combat cannot fire, nor can other troops fire
at
>them." page 33, Titan Legions Rule Book. Since infantry are pinned by
>everything, they should never be able to enter close combat and shoot in
the
>same phase. The rules in Titan Legions do not provide for any infantry
>stand (or normal-sized vehicle) to do both, even command units.
>
>2. Allowing models to charge and fire will add a lot of needless
>complications to close combat, movement, and shooting. My exarchs use
some,
>but not all, of their movement and contact an enemy squad. When do they
>fire? Before they charge? After they charge? During their charge? This
>is critical, because if the charging/shooting model kills the target of its
>charge with its shooting attack, shouldn't they be allowed to continue
their
>charge into surviving enemy models? It would be entirely reasonable to
>assume that the shooting/charging troops would be shooting at the squad
they
>are charging 'during their charge', so they would naturally complete their
>charge into any surviving troops. Now we have to either allow them to move
>in the combat phase, or fire in the middle of the movement phase, or fire
>before the movement phase, or create a new shooting while on charge orders
>phase. Arrrggg, how confusing.
>
>3. "Charge: Models with charge orders move flat out, sacrificing
firepower
>and caution for speed. The models move at double their normal speed in the
>movement phase, but may not fire at all in the combat phase....." page 21,
>Titan Legions Rule Book. Where is the balance between charge and advance
>orders? If you allow troops to the advantages of double movement,
shooting,
>and the potential to enter close combat you have just weakened the power of
>advance orders. I can recall many occasions when I wished that I had put a
>particular unit on Charge instead of Advance orders, because my opponent
had
>moved into charge range. Each of the different order counters has their
own
>weaknesses and strengths. I would almost never put my troops on advance
>orders, if on charge they would get double movement, shooting, and the
>ability to enter close combat. I can easily see me only using First Fire
or
>Charge counters and completely ignoring Advance orders.
>
>Brian A. Evans
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Weasel Fierce <septimus__at_...>
>To: <netepic_at_egroups.com>
>Sent: Saturday, November 27, 1999 7:16 AM
>Subject: [NetEpic ML] Re: NetEpic revision....LOOOOONG but read it and vote
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>
>> >NO SHOOTING ON CHARGE ORDERS!! Units that have powerful guns (Exarchs)
>> >would be AWSOME if they could shoot AND charge.
>>
>>
>> exarches are command units....they CAN move 40 cm. and still first
>fire.....
>>
>
>(snip)
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