Hi!
Strictly speaking if an Imperial player has a core army of IG and wants SM and TG as allies he can do so, but he will have to squeeze them both into the 25%, NOT 25% for TG and 25% for SM. In essence you won't be able to do this effectively except in larger games due to cost restrictions. In a 6000 point game you would get 1500 on allies so it gets tough to squeeze both SM and TG into that although it can be done.
Allies are a privilidge, not a right, so these restrictions should be enforced. Its too easy for a player's to make armies that minimize the weakness an army has this way. By far its mostly Imperial players that do this. I could see blending IG and TG as a house rule with unrestricted purchase, but never with SM as allies.
Peter
----- Original Message -----
From: "darius spano" <dmanspano_at_yahoo.com>
To: <netepic_at_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] Epic 40,000 evolution:Q Army & Allies
> Just a quick question and then I will let everyone get
> back to GW bashing (they deserve it).
> I understand the Ally rule as 75% of one core army and
> up to 25% of 1 allied army. So IG can ally with Tech
> Guard, Space Marines and PDF. Under the rules then we
> could choose 1 core army (say IG) and 1 ally army up
> to 25%. These are optional.
>
> I understand this butI have seen players and played
> with players using 50%IG 25% SM and 25% TG because
> they all fall under the Imperium. Accordingto the
> rules this illegal but it does make sense they are
> under the grace of the Emperor.
>
> Now back to regular programming. My own views on GW.
> Warmaster is a good game but they gave it up for dead.
> No support and no plastic sprues for troops. Warhammer
> FB is a decent game as is Space Hulk. 40k is lame with
> terminators getting an invulnerable save and
> carnifaxes not. Try playing a Dark Angels Deathwing
> army. I played for 5 turns in a 1500 pt game with my
> Tyranids. I killed 5 terminators while the Dark Angels
> killed 50+ Tyranid units--Space Marine was fair, Rogue
> Trader was fair but 40k just plain blows if you aren't
> a specialized chapter. I think they will try a
> re-release of "bot" game like AT that wiull lead into
> aa Epic game. I hope Mage Knight buries them and Void
> takes off.
> Darius
>
> --- Gabewolfe_at_aol.com wrote:
> > oh yeah! since teh start with 40K they been stuck on
> > role play wargaming.
> > they even copy right 3D Role play in the original
> > hard cover. Just give it
> > up and say it is a wargame and stay away from any
> > ideas of role play. You
> > can find one liners in articles and small things in
> > the copy right pages.
> > And it keeps coming up. Like talking about his
> > first game in IQ. In the 70's
> > [yes the 70's] wargames were very hardline. all
> > historicals. GW was just
> > getting into it with WHFB. Back then it came in a
> > box with thre little books
> > and a couple of dice, just like all RPGs. If you
> > think some of their rules
> > are bad try playing 2nd WHFB. my whole army was one
> > figure. Yes I know i was
> > a cheesy SOB when i was younger!
> >
> > I think they have giving up on make things up as you
> > go. Last edition they
> > pushed for that. Leaving rules opened ended. But
> > that went out the window
> > with the GT and games day. Talking with the guys
> > they are cool but they are
> > not into to making it right right away. I was in a
> > tournament with Andy
> > Chambers as the rules judge. He would let players
> > say bring in a tech marine
> > with a gravitation gun. the payer explained it and
> > he said cool. One player
> > say it and bitch at Andy till he changed his mind.
> > Andy just wanted the guy
> > out of his face. Tomas for give me if i spelled his
> > name wrong. He more up
> > front. but a very nice guy. Shor and buff. he is a
> > game freak. any game he
> > can get into he is there for hours. vampire,
> > cyberpunk even pokemon' yes he
> > like an 8 year when it comes to the knowledge of
> > Pokemon.
> >
> > also playtesting does happen. it is not easy i been
> > busting both nuts to
> > become one but the games designers want to meet you
> > first. then they talk
> > about you then decide. Playtesting is done by guys
> > who play to much by the
> > rules and should be by guys wwho will rape it for
> > what it is worth. so all
> > the holes and flaws are exposed. otherwise they
> > glance at the playtesters
> > work and move on. We suggestions and they think
> > about it. If you players made
> > up stuff play tet it and send in a battle report. it
> > would get someones
> > attention. the big key if feed back. Look at BFG
> > and the Necrons.
> >
> >
>
>
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