Re: [NetEpic ML] Epic 40,000 evolution:Q Army & Allies

From: darius spano <dmanspano_at_...>
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 05:12:35 -0800 (PST)

Just a quick question and then I will let everyone get
back to GW bashing (they deserve it).
I understand the Ally rule as 75% of one core army and
up to 25% of 1 allied army. So IG can ally with Tech
Guard, Space Marines and PDF. Under the rules then we
could choose 1 core army (say IG) and 1 ally army up
to 25%. These are optional.

I understand this butI have seen players and played
with players using 50%IG 25% SM and 25% TG because
they all fall under the Imperium. Accordingto the
rules this illegal but it does make sense they are
under the grace of the Emperor.

Now back to regular programming. My own views on GW.
Warmaster is a good game but they gave it up for dead.
No support and no plastic sprues for troops. Warhammer
FB is a decent game as is Space Hulk. 40k is lame with
terminators getting an invulnerable save and
carnifaxes not. Try playing a Dark Angels Deathwing
army. I played for 5 turns in a 1500 pt game with my
Tyranids. I killed 5 terminators while the Dark Angels
killed 50+ Tyranid units--Space Marine was fair, Rogue
Trader was fair but 40k just plain blows if you aren't
a specialized chapter. I think they will try a
re-release of "bot" game like AT that wiull lead into
aa Epic game. I hope Mage Knight buries them and Void
takes off.
Darius

--- Gabewolfe_at_... wrote:
> oh yeah! since teh start with 40K they been stuck on
> role play wargaming.
> they even copy right 3D Role play in the original
> hard cover. Just give it
> up and say it is a wargame and stay away from any
> ideas of role play. You
> can find one liners in articles and small things in
> the copy right pages.
> And it keeps coming up. Like talking about his
> first game in IQ. In the 70's
> [yes the 70's] wargames were very hardline. all
> historicals. GW was just
> getting into it with WHFB. Back then it came in a
> box with thre little books
> and a couple of dice, just like all RPGs. If you
> think some of their rules
> are bad try playing 2nd WHFB. my whole army was one
> figure. Yes I know i was
> a cheesy SOB when i was younger!
>
> I think they have giving up on make things up as you
> go. Last edition they
> pushed for that. Leaving rules opened ended. But
> that went out the window
> with the GT and games day. Talking with the guys
> they are cool but they are
> not into to making it right right away. I was in a
> tournament with Andy
> Chambers as the rules judge. He would let players
> say bring in a tech marine
> with a gravitation gun. the payer explained it and
> he said cool. One player
> say it and bitch at Andy till he changed his mind.
> Andy just wanted the guy
> out of his face. Tomas for give me if i spelled his
> name wrong. He more up
> front. but a very nice guy. Shor and buff. he is a
> game freak. any game he
> can get into he is there for hours. vampire,
> cyberpunk even pokemon' yes he
> like an 8 year when it comes to the knowledge of
> Pokemon.
>
> also playtesting does happen. it is not easy i been
> busting both nuts to
> become one but the games designers want to meet you
> first. then they talk
> about you then decide. Playtesting is done by guys
> who play to much by the
> rules and should be by guys wwho will rape it for
> what it is worth. so all
> the holes and flaws are exposed. otherwise they
> glance at the playtesters
> work and move on. We suggestions and they think
> about it. If you players made
> up stuff play tet it and send in a battle report. it
> would get someones
> attention. the big key if feed back. Look at BFG
> and the Necrons.
>
>


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Received on Fri Feb 01 2002 - 13:12:35 UTC

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