Hi!
T-hawks have always gotten a bad rap in epic, especially prior to the introduccion of AA units. Well executed you can hand an opponent a one turn knock out with a flight of these loaded with troops. Of course, usually it works only once since the opponent will figure out how to counter it.
Its quite easy too with a small investment in AA (depending on game size one or two detachments are enough) and placing them and their radius of fire in tandem you can effectively cover you half of the battlefield.
Remember that AA units are cheaper than fliers. Also they snap fire at fliers without penalty, thats a huge bonus, since transport fliers come in with cargoes in the movement phase. It's a brave (or foolish) player who risks full transports, one shot and "poof" one whole detachment dead, perhaps breaking the company or support card. Also, check the stats of AA. Most have nasty -2. -3 save modifers. Fliers average armor saves are 3 or 4, not good.
I have played chaos without air support, you can win but it gets dicey, especially if the other players experienced, but it can be done. The design desicions made wanted to foster a combined approach and I think we got that.
Then again you may be suprised MANY people dont use fliers at all, so sometimes this issue doesn't come up all that frequently. Actually when we do version 5.0, fliers may be categorized as "advanced" rules.
Peter
----- Original Message -----
From: <eivind.borgeteien_at_...>
To: <netepic_at_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 9:48 AM
Subject: Sv: RE: [NetEpic ML] Fliers..
> Hi
>
> I tend to bring 3 T-hawks every time I get the chance. Although they have great firepower and are hard to hit, they do not make allthat difference. At least not in 3-4k games.
>
> Eivind
> >
> > Fra: <jyrki.saari_at_...>
> > Dato: 2002/03/11 Mon PM 02:18:41 CET
> > Til: <netepic_at_yahoogroups.com>
> > Emne: RE: [NetEpic ML] Fliers..
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> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ext Sam Dale [mailto:epic_at_...]
> > > Sent: 11. March 2002 5:19
> > > To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [NetEpic ML] Fliers..
> > >
> > >
> > > Um. Something that was remarked upon in my gaming circle was
> > > the NetEpic
> > > flier rules. Basically, the way they appear to work is that
> > > you have to take
> > > AA weapons (or fighter aircraft) in every army or you can't
> > > touch enemy
> > > fliers.
> > >
> > > Why was this route decided on?
> >
> > Because that's the way it is in "real world(TM)" and, not to mention, makes the flyers worth having. If every tank could shoot flyers with their main armament it would be completely ridiculous as well as make the flyers extinct.
> >
> > > As it stands, i can fight a
> > > chaos army, take
> > > a couple of companies of line troops backed up with several wings of
> > > Marauders and maybe some Thunderbolts, and unless i attack
> > > Chaos Marines
> > > (they'll need sixes to hit) or there's Doomwings present,
> > > there's nothing
> > > that can do anything to stop them killing anything they choose to.
> > >
> >
> > If the Chaos player doesn't get any airpower he deserves it. Besides, every infantry unit which is attacked by the flyers can shoot at flyers with 6+ to hit. Not just the marines.
> >
> > > Yeah, the more fliers, the less to hold the objectives with,
> > > but if you've
> > > got firepower to melt the enemy army away, it doesn't matter...
> > >
> > > Sam.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Jyrki Saari
> >
> > -There is no such thing as free lunch because eating takes time and time is money.
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