Re: Re: [NetEpic ML] Guess? Questions.... ^^

From: Peter Ramos <primarch_at_...>
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 12:33:13 -0400

Hi!

It goes beyond that though. Version 5.0 also needs to be divided into basic and advance and we ALSO need to re-review certain rules and concepts that may not be so good (I got a few on record).

The errata business is just a part of the whole thing. Its probably best errata be the last thing to do since doing it first, changing things will generate more.

Peter

----- Original Message -----
From: <nils.saugen_at_...>
To: <netepic_at_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 12:24 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [NetEpic ML] Guess? Questions.... ^^


> Hmmm,
>
> Perhaps we should make a 5.0 taskforce? To read through and make
> corrections, and then post the rules in the vault, with the changes
> highlighted so that the rest of the group could comment?
>
> Nils
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Ramos [mailto:primarch_at_...]
> Sent: 21. mars 2002 17:21
> To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: Re: [NetEpic ML] Guess? Questions.... ^^
>
>
> Hi!
>
> <sigh> 5.0 will be something of a milestone, it has so much to do, so much
> to correct and change it gets staggering. Prepare for a long ride.
>
> Peter
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eivind Borgeteien" <eivind.borgeteien_at_...>
> To: <netepic_at_yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 11:44 AM
> Subject: RE: Re: [NetEpic ML] Guess? Questions.... ^^
>
>
> > Well, thats another one for the revision.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Eivind
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Peter Ramos [mailto:primarch_at_...]
> > Sent: 21. mars 2002 16:21
> > To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: Re: [NetEpic ML] Guess? Questions.... ^^
> >
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > <grin> No, GW didn't clear it up, but then thats no surprise. Grey
> knights
> > are expensive, 400 for 4 stands. As far as I can remember I've always let
> > them have any orders. It does make them useful, but no overly so.
> Regarding
> > not using first fire, I don't agree. I have read plenty of fluff where
> they
> > materialize and shoot to pieces whatever is there...sounds like first fire
> > to me. Any limitation of what orders they take makes them worthless, they
> > are barely useful as is, since they only are fielded against chaos. From a
> > game balance point of view I'd leave them with the orders options, after
> all
> > don't even have psychic abilities, just a psychic save. Not much of a grey
> > knight.....
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Eivind Borgeteien" <eivind.borgeteien_at_...>
> > To: <netepic_at_yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 11:06 AM
> > Subject: RE: Re: [NetEpic ML] Guess? Questions.... ^^
> >
> >
> > > Hmm..
> > >
> > > I had to double-check myself, and it really does not say! An other
> really
> > > idotic thing is that it says in the text thattr Gray Knights only can be
> > > fielded against Chaos, but on the illustrative picture, they are
> battling
> > a
> > > genestealercult magus! Talk about consistency!!!
> > >
> > > I know my group has used them the way that they cant move or fire the
> turn
> > > they are teleported, but that makes them really har to use. I have yet
> to
> > > see them doany actual damage.
> > >
> > > I guess that allowing them to fire in advance fire segment would make
> them
> > > more usefull. Their movement should anyway be used up by teleporting in.
> > >
> > > A real tricky one. Guess we have to wait for the primarch to arise from
> > his
> > > sleep...
> > >
> > > Eivind
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: P.J.T [mailto:paul.j.t_at_...]
> > > Sent: 21. mars 2002 14:55
> > > To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: Re: [NetEpic ML] Guess? Questions.... ^^
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Guys,
> > >
> > > Just checked SMII Armies of the Imperium, Its not mentioned which orders
> > > they can be given - just the mechanics of actually teleporting (aim,
> > > scatter).
> > >
> > > Makes sense that they shouldn't be able to first fire though.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Paul "TuffSkull" T.
> > > http://epic40k.com - If its Epic, Its there! (Now an Official Warpgate
> > > Network site!)
> > > http://welcome.to/weird_world - Weird World Wargaming.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <jyrki.saari_at_...>
> > > To: <netepic_at_yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 1:30 PM
> > > Subject: RE: Re: [NetEpic ML] Guess? Questions.... ^^
> > >
> > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: ext nils.saugen_at_sebkort.no [mailto:nils.saugen@...]
> > > > > Sent: 21. March 2002 15:12
> > > > > To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Subject: RE: Re: [NetEpic ML] Guess? Questions.... ^^
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > You should check the old GW rules! I think they enter on
> > > > > advance orders, but
> > > > > I'm not certain! However, I think it is stated clearly in the
> > > > > old GW rules.
> > > > > I could check that this afternoon if you don't have those
> > > > > anymore! Or you
> > > > > could have a look in the old Battles book (The big yellow
> > > > > one), in the chaos
> > > > > vs bloodangels game, they use Gray knights.
> > > > >
> > > > > Nils
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > In the battlereport you mentioned they charged into CC with Magnus the
> > Red
> > > so judging from that they are on charge orders. However, IIRC it's not
> > > specifically mentioned in the rules (surprise!).
> > > >
> > > > Jyrki Saari
> > > >
> > > > -There is no such thing as free lunch because eating takes time and
> time
> > > is money.
> > > >
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