Perhaps a good way to face that task would be splitting each "book" in parts, so a deep revision (which BTW is needed if we are for dividing rules &units in basic, advanced & optional) would be quite easier than facing the whole ruleset
Other things on Grey Knights: their CC fighting is considered a psychic attack (at least against demons & G. demons, so no saving cards allowed), what about against other units? And units with Psychic Saving Throw? Also, their shooting is considered a Physical Psychic attack, so Psi saving throw doesn't aply, am I right?
I definitely think that this kind of units focused against other armies (which BTW implies lots of extra rules) should be considered, at least, advanced rules (not to say optional)
Albert
----- Original Message -----
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Hmmm,
Perhaps we should make a 5.0 taskforce? To read through and make
corrections, and then post the rules in the vault, with the changes
highlighted so that the rest of the group could comment?
Nils
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Ramos [mailto:primarch_at_...]
Sent: 21. mars 2002 17:21
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Hi!
<sigh> 5.0 will be something of a milestone, it has so much to do, so much
to correct and change it gets staggering. Prepare for a long ride.
Peter
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eivind Borgeteien" <eivind.borgeteien_at_...>
To: <netepic_at_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 11:44 AM
Subject: RE: Re: [NetEpic ML] Guess? Questions.... ^^
> Well, thats another one for the revision.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Eivind
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Ramos [mailto:primarch_at_...]
> Sent: 21. mars 2002 16:21
> To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: Re: [NetEpic ML] Guess? Questions.... ^^
>
>
> Hi!
>
> <grin> No, GW didn't clear it up, but then thats no surprise. Grey
knights
> are expensive, 400 for 4 stands. As far as I can remember I've always let
> them have any orders. It does make them useful, but no overly so.
Regarding
> not using first fire, I don't agree. I have read plenty of fluff where
they
> materialize and shoot to pieces whatever is there...sounds like first fire
> to me. Any limitation of what orders they take makes them worthless, they
> are barely useful as is, since they only are fielded against chaos. From a
> game balance point of view I'd leave them with the orders options, after
all
> don't even have psychic abilities, just a psychic save. Not much of a grey
> knight.....
>
> Peter
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eivind Borgeteien" <eivind.borgeteien_at_...>
> To: <netepic_at_yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 11:06 AM
> Subject: RE: Re: [NetEpic ML] Guess? Questions.... ^^
>
>
> > Hmm..
> >
> > I had to double-check myself, and it really does not say! An other
really
> > idotic thing is that it says in the text thattr Gray Knights only can be
> > fielded against Chaos, but on the illustrative picture, they are
battling
> a
> > genestealercult magus! Talk about consistency!!!
> >
> > I know my group has used them the way that they cant move or fire the
turn
> > they are teleported, but that makes them really har to use. I have yet
to
> > see them doany actual damage.
> >
> > I guess that allowing them to fire in advance fire segment would make
them
> > more usefull. Their movement should anyway be used up by teleporting in.
> >
> > A real tricky one. Guess we have to wait for the primarch to arise from
> his
> > sleep...
> >
> > Eivind
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: P.J.T [mailto:paul.j.t_at_...]
> > Sent: 21. mars 2002 14:55
> > To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: Re: [NetEpic ML] Guess? Questions.... ^^
> >
> >
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> > Just checked SMII Armies of the Imperium, Its not mentioned which orders
> > they can be given - just the mechanics of actually teleporting (aim,
> > scatter).
> >
> > Makes sense that they shouldn't be able to first fire though.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Paul "TuffSkull" T.
> > http://epic40k.com - If its Epic, Its there! (Now an Official Warpgate
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> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <jyrki.saari_at_...>
> > To: <netepic_at_yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 1:30 PM
> > Subject: RE: Re: [NetEpic ML] Guess? Questions.... ^^
> >
> >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: ext nils.saugen_at_sebkort.no [mailto:nils.saugen_at_...]
> > > > Sent: 21. March 2002 15:12
> > > > To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: RE: Re: [NetEpic ML] Guess? Questions.... ^^
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > You should check the old GW rules! I think they enter on
> > > > advance orders, but
> > > > I'm not certain! However, I think it is stated clearly in the
> > > > old GW rules.
> > > > I could check that this afternoon if you don't have those
> > > > anymore! Or you
> > > > could have a look in the old Battles book (The big yellow
> > > > one), in the chaos
> > > > vs bloodangels game, they use Gray knights.
> > > >
> > > > Nils
> > > >
> > >
> > > In the battlereport you mentioned they charged into CC with Magnus the
> Red
> > so judging from that they are on charge orders. However, IIRC it's not
> > specifically mentioned in the rules (surprise!).
> > >
> > > Jyrki Saari
> > >
> > > -There is no such thing as free lunch because eating takes time and
time
> > is money.
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