I agree the Slann prices are fine where they are. We
hve playtested them a lot too a few years ago and
Hellreich and I like the prices where they are. That's
the price for some shooty units with cool and funky
weapons and not to mention the warp jumps. It is a
good list and good army.
Darius
--- Eivind Borgeteien <eivind.borgeteien_at_...>
wrote:
> The Slann and necrons are good as they are pr now. I
> have even recomended
> people to buy them! The Slann have yet not lost
> bigtime so right now I see
> no reason what so ever to upgrade the units or make
> them cheaper. More
> playtesting is in order before we do any of that.
>
> Eivind
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Ramos [mailto:primarch_at_...]
> Sent: 7. april 2002 03:09
> To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] more questions :)
>
>
> Hi!
>
>
>
> You can't?! We'll have to remedy that. There
> should be a separate slann
> mage unit.
>
>
>
> As for the rest, we've been down this beaten path
> a lot in the last years.
> No doubt your buddies will show up soon with their
> reasons why the prices
> should stand. Conversely if they agree with you
> (after all I do recognize
> you, Eivind and others have tested the slann more
> than anyone else), then I'
> ll go with it. Playtest speaks louder than reason.
> Granted most of my
> experience is with Necron (which don't seem to be a
> problem any more) so
> perhaps the slann are overpriced. But like I said if
> the "Nordic connection"
> agrees with your points then you got me as well.
>
>
>
> I foresee many things as far as revision,
> hopefully the second "slann
> wars" wont be one of them <grin>
>
>
>
> Peter
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rune Karlsen
> [mailto:rune.karlsen6_at_...]
> Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 8:11 PM
> To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [NetEpic ML] more questions :)
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> more mindnumbing questions :)
>
>
>
> Why cant the Slann Mage be bought without a mech?
> And the prices don't
> seem fair either.
>
> You can buy the Great Magus for 150 and 3 Tadpole
> mechs cost 300 (100 a
> piece). Why does
>
> a Slann mage in a tadpole then cost 300? Shouldnt
> that be more like 200?
> Actually, it should be
>
> less, since you dont get 2 units when you buy the
> slann mage in a mech,
> you simply replace his
>
> save with the save of the mech and give him some
> other weaponry. Plus, he
> can't cost more
>
> than the Great Magus without his mech, which means
> a Slann mage should be
> around 100 points.
>
> If you upgrade his tadpole mech to a Frog, you
> pay 100 extra,
>
> but the support card upgrade costs 33 per mech. If
> you upgrade him further
> to a Bull frog, you pay
>
> 200 extra, but again, the support card upgrade
> costs 66 per mech. Do the
> math, he simply costs 3
>
> times as much to upgrade as other mechs. I've only
> fielded this mage a few
> times, due to the extreme cost
>
> , and that was when we used the infamous 1.0
> rules. As if the cost wasn't
> enough,
>
> since he doesnt exist as other than a mech, you
> have to purchase at least
> a support card of other mechs
>
> to place close by him, or he is an obvious target
> amongst infantry and
> vehicles. So, if you field him without other mechs,
> and
>
> want him to survive for more than 2 minutes, you
> have to put him in a bull
> frog mech at a mere 500 (remember,
>
> this is also a special card). Now, for 500 points
> as a special card, other
> armies can buy some pretty
>
> nifty stuff! Please, the cost has got to go down
> and be relative to the
> other mech prices. Also, the mage
>
> has got to be able to be bought separate from a
> mech (with some different
> powers maybe?).
>
> I think we've gone a bit overboard on some of the
> Slann prices. They
> aren't all that great, and they shouldn't
>
> cost more simply cause they're Slann units. Equal
> stats should have
> similar costs, depending on army
>
> structure of course. As i see it, the Slann Mage
> in a mech should cost 150
> for the tadpole version, 175 for the
>
> medium version, and 200 for the heavy version. I
> think these prices are
> fair, considering they're upgrades, AND
>
> you have to buy other mechs as well or lose your
> mage to a barrage of fire
> almost before you've placed
>
> him on the table.
>
> And while im on the subject, i'd also like to
> mention the Slann Time Mech.
> There aren't any mech upgrades here,
>
> it simply costs 500 for a heavy mech version. Now,
> the Time Stasis beam or
> whatever its called is the same power
>
> as an Eldar Warlock has (he costs 125 points, and
> has other powers as
> well). The Slann Time mech has only
>
> this one power. Lets for arguments sake say that
> the Slann Time mage
> outside his mech would cost 100 points since
>
> he has only one power. That means his upgrade to a
> heavy mech costs 400.
> Either the Heavy mechs should cost
>
> 1200 for 3, or this is also seriously overpriced.
> The same also goes for
> this unit when it comes to buying support
>
> mechs. I think a fair price for this unit would be
> 200, same as a Slann
> Mage in a heavy mech. I also think that
>
> the Time Mage should be able to exist without his
> mech (perhaps his ass is
> welded to the seat, or maybe he's
>
> gotten so fat he can't get out of it anymore? ;).
> If so, he should get
> some additional Time based powers.
>
> True Slann company cards are very expensive, so
> True Slann special cards
> are very rare, maybe you only have
>
>
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