RE: [NetEpic ML] more questions :)

From: darius spano <dmanspano_at_...>
Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 07:26:05 -0700 (PDT)

He is on Lurker status I think. We haven't gamed in
almost a year but I do see him once in awhile. I will
give him a prod to liven up the topic of Slann.
Darius
--- Eivind Borgeteien <eivind.borgeteien_at_...>
wrote:
> Speaking of Hellreich, has he gone into a slumbering
> lurk-mode or just given
> completely up on us?
>
> Eivind
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: darius spano [mailto:dmanspano_at_...]
> Sent: 7. april 2002 16:04
> To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] more questions :)
>
>
> I agree the Slann prices are fine where they are. We
> hve playtested them a lot too a few years ago and
> Hellreich and I like the prices where they are.
> That's
> the price for some shooty units with cool and funky
> weapons and not to mention the warp jumps. It is a
> good list and good army.
> Darius
> --- Eivind Borgeteien <eivind.borgeteien_at_...>
> wrote:
> > The Slann and necrons are good as they are pr now.
> I
> > have even recomended
> > people to buy them! The Slann have yet not lost
> > bigtime so right now I see
> > no reason what so ever to upgrade the units or
> make
> > them cheaper. More
> > playtesting is in order before we do any of that.
> >
> > Eivind
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Peter Ramos [mailto:primarch_at_...]
> > Sent: 7. april 2002 03:09
> > To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] more questions :)
> >
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> >
> >
> > You can't?! We'll have to remedy that. There
> > should be a separate slann
> > mage unit.
> >
> >
> >
> > As for the rest, we've been down this beaten
> path
> > a lot in the last years.
> > No doubt your buddies will show up soon with their
> > reasons why the prices
> > should stand. Conversely if they agree with you
> > (after all I do recognize
> > you, Eivind and others have tested the slann more
> > than anyone else), then I'
> > ll go with it. Playtest speaks louder than reason.
> > Granted most of my
> > experience is with Necron (which don't seem to be
> a
> > problem any more) so
> > perhaps the slann are overpriced. But like I said
> if
> > the "Nordic connection"
> > agrees with your points then you got me as well.
> >
> >
> >
> > I foresee many things as far as revision,
> > hopefully the second "slann
> > wars" wont be one of them <grin>
> >
> >
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rune Karlsen
> > [mailto:rune.karlsen6_at_...]
> > Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 8:11 PM
> > To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [NetEpic ML] more questions :)
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> >
> > more mindnumbing questions :)
> >
> >
> >
> > Why cant the Slann Mage be bought without a
> mech?
> > And the prices don't
> > seem fair either.
> >
> > You can buy the Great Magus for 150 and 3
> Tadpole
> > mechs cost 300 (100 a
> > piece). Why does
> >
> > a Slann mage in a tadpole then cost 300?
> Shouldnt
> > that be more like 200?
> > Actually, it should be
> >
> > less, since you dont get 2 units when you buy
> the
> > slann mage in a mech,
> > you simply replace his
> >
> > save with the save of the mech and give him some
> > other weaponry. Plus, he
> > can't cost more
> >
> > than the Great Magus without his mech, which
> means
> > a Slann mage should be
> > around 100 points.
> >
> > If you upgrade his tadpole mech to a Frog, you
> > pay 100 extra,
> >
> > but the support card upgrade costs 33 per mech.
> If
> > you upgrade him further
> > to a Bull frog, you pay
> >
> > 200 extra, but again, the support card upgrade
> > costs 66 per mech. Do the
> > math, he simply costs 3
> >
> > times as much to upgrade as other mechs. I've
> only
> > fielded this mage a few
> > times, due to the extreme cost
> >
> > , and that was when we used the infamous 1.0
> > rules. As if the cost wasn't
> > enough,
> >
> > since he doesnt exist as other than a mech, you
> > have to purchase at least
> > a support card of other mechs
> >
> > to place close by him, or he is an obvious
> target
> > amongst infantry and
> > vehicles. So, if you field him without other
> mechs,
> > and
> >
> > want him to survive for more than 2 minutes, you
> > have to put him in a bull
> > frog mech at a mere 500 (remember,
> >
> > this is also a special card). Now, for 500
> points
> > as a special card, other
> > armies can buy some pretty
> >
> > nifty stuff! Please, the cost has got to go down
> > and be relative to the
> > other mech prices. Also, the mage
> >
> > has got to be able to be bought separate from a
> > mech (with some different
> > powers maybe?).
> >
> > I think we've gone a bit overboard on some of
> the
> > Slann prices. They
> > aren't all that great, and they shouldn't
> >
> > cost more simply cause they're Slann units.
> Equal
> > stats should have
> > similar costs, depending on army
> >
> > structure of course. As i see it, the Slann Mage
> > in a mech should cost 150
> > for the tadpole version, 175 for the
> >
> > medium version, and 200 for the heavy version. I
> > think these prices are
> > fair, considering they're upgrades, AND
> >
> > you have to buy other mechs as well or lose your
> > mage to a barrage of fire
> > almost before you've placed
> >
> > him on the table.
> >
>
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