[NetEpic ML] Re: [v5.0] Core rules: fliers

From: antichrist666it <seimejote_at_...>
Date: Wed, 08 May 2002 17:20:29 -0000

--- In netepic_at_y..., Zerloon <zerloon_at_i...> wrote:
> At 09.01 07/05/2002 +0000, you wrote:
> > > >Classes
> > > >All flyers are divided in 2 types (Thrusters and Floaters) and
3
> > > >classes (Fighters, Bombers and Transports), which identify the
> >orders
> > > >they can receive.
> > >
> > > I'll keep the standard order with different effect.
> >
> >There's one more order... you cannot use the standard First
> >Fire/Advance/Charge
>
> Yes but is used only by specific class of flier. I think we can
simply put
> togheter.

All flyers may engage another flyer, not only fighters.

>
>
> > > Agree, but again this can be a First fire order.
> >
> >You can use the First fire counter if you want... but give the
order
> >its proper name, or it may just be confusing...
>
> Isn't easyest if we use all the same orders?
>
>
> > >
> > > >· Strafe - This order permits the flyer to fire all its
weaponry at
> > > >ground units in the Advance Fire segment.
> > >
> > > Call Advance then.
> >
> >I like "Strafe" a lot ;P
>
> <CRASH!!> <Zerloon's feet on air>
>
>
> > >
> > > >· Engage - This order permits the flyer to fire its weaponry
> >(except
> > > >barrage weapons) at other flyers in the Advance Fire segment.
> > >
> > > Why another order? Advance again!!
> >
> >Nyet. This order is DIFFERENT from the previous. You can strafe the
> >ground OR other flyers, there isn't an order to do both things.
>
> Yes, but there are very similar.

With a unique order, you can choose to attack ground objects or other
flyers when you activate the flyer detachment (more easy). With two
separate orders, you must decide in the Orders phase if your flyers
will shoot ground units or go dogfighting (more tactical decisions,
more challenging IMHO).

It's just matter to decide what you like most!

>
> > > >Dogfights
> > > >Flyers with Engage orders may shoot at other flyers in their
> >weapons'
> > > >range, but cannot use any barrage weapon they eventually have.
> > > >Fighter pilots are especially trained in dogfights, so all
fighters
> > > >receive a +1 To Hit bonus when shooting at other flyers, and
give
> >an
> > > >additional -1 To Hit penalty to other flyers firing at them.
> > >
> > > And weapon with tamplate like doomwing?
> >
> >Isn't a Barrage weapon, so you can use it against other flyers (in
> >fact, it's the only weapon you have!)
>
> ok
>
>
> > > >Floaters
> > > >Floaters are an intermediate type unit between flyers and
ground
> > > >units. These units receive orders just as ground units do and
the
> > > >orders have the same meaning and restrictions as for ground
units
> > > >(some have special rules so consult the units profile).
Floaters
> >have
> > > >the ability to skim above the ground or use their engines to
> >levitate
> > > >to dizzying heights, this is designated as flying high and
flying
> >low:
> > > >· Flying high - At this altitude the floater has an increased
LoS
> > > >(its top height is 30cm, it can trace LoS from that vantage
point).
> > > >In addition all incoming fire to the floater must add 25cm to
the
> > > >distance to reach it, effectively reducing the range of the
firing
> > > >units. The drawback is that the floater cannot take advantage
of
> > > >terrain or buildings to hide behind and thus is exposed to most
> >units
> > > >on the tabletop. While flying high only other floaters may
engage
> >it
> > > >in close combat. The added range bonus does not apply to flyers
> >that
> > > >attack it.
> > >
> > > I'll leave the 25 cm malus, but add that floater in fly high
CANNOT
> >be
> > > shoted exept from AA and pop upped skimmer.
> >
> >Doing as you say, floaters flying high are more difficult to shot
at
> >than thrusters...
>
> No, I think the difficult should is exaxtly the same.

Really? As you've written, Floaters can be shoot at only by AA units
(like thrusters), but _also_ grant a 25cm penalty to the AA weapons'
range.
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