Sounds good to me.
I think either way would work, but smaller detachments is more in line with
the Space Marine ethos.
Tom.
"antichrist666it" <seimejote_at_...> on 05/06/2002 16:56:41
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Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] [v5.0] Black Templars
Why not 3 Templar Bike stands and 2 Neophyte Bike stands for 100
points?
--- In netepic_at_y..., "Tom Webb" <tom.webb_at_s...> wrote:
> Sounds fair to me, if not reduce his cost to 50 points, also I
think the
> bike detachments points should be raised, 5 stands of normal bikers
and 3
> stands of scout bikers for just 175 points...
>
> Tom.
>
>
>
>
>
> nils.saugen_at_s... on 05/06/2002 13:38:31
>
> Please respond to netepic_at_y...
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> To: netepic_at_y...
> cc:
>
> Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] [v5.0] Black Templars
>
>
> Hi,
>
> IMHO the champion should be free!
>
> Nils
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eivind Borgeteien [mailto:eivind.borgeteien_at_c...]
> Sent: 5. juni 2002 14:32
> To: netepic_at_y...
> Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] [v5.0] Black Templars
>
>
> Hi!
>
> Nice rules!
>
> Why cant the BT take librarians?
>
> 100 points for the champ might be too mmuch as he always have to
charge a
> commander if it is within reach. The commander usually gets to FF
before
> CC,
> so I dont think this champ is going to last very long. Maybe 50 or
75
> points
> would be better?
>
> Eivind
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jyrki.saari_at_n... [mailto:jyrki.saari_at_n...]
> Sent: 5. juni 2002 14:22
> To: netepic_at_y...
> Subject: [NetEpic ML] [v5.0] Black Templars
>
>
> SPECIAL RULES:
> Black Templars are fanatic to the extreme even by Space Marine
standards.
> When other Marines would fall back to regroup for a counter attack
the
> Black
> Templars hurl themselves at the enemy in righteous anger. When a
Black
> Templar detachment or company reaches break point, make a morale
check as
> normal. However, if the check is failed the Black Templar
detachment must
> immediately charge the nearest enemy unit within LOS. The
detachment may
> only be given charge orders until it "rallies" and must always
charge the
> nearest enemy unit.
>
> A Black Templars army must include one Emperor's champion.
>
> Black templars do not use scouts like other Marine Chapters do.
Instead,
> the
> neophytes as they are called are taught the skills of war by their
> full-fledged brethren. Each Black Templars tactical detachment has
two
> neophyte stands and a rhino and each bike detachment has three
Neophyte
> bike
> stands as additional troops. The neophytes have the same stats as
space
> marine scouts but they may not infiltrate.
>
> NEW UNITS:
> Emperor's Champion
> Emperor's Champions are chosen from the most zealous Black
Templars. They
> are the embodiment of the virtues of the Emperor's chosen and
inspire their
> brothers to ever greater deeds and sacrifice in the service of the
Emperor.
> A Emperor's Champion must issue a challenge if a enemy HQ or
character
> stand
> is within charge reach in the movement phase. Both stands are moved
to base
> contact and a close combat is fought in the CC phase as normal. If
there
> are
> more than one eligible stand the Black Templars player may choose
which one
> is challenged. The challenge may not be refused and no other models
may
> attack either the Champion or his opponent.
>
> Move: 10 cm
> Save: 4+*
> CAF: +5
> Weapons: Bolt Pistol
> Range: 25cm
> Att. D: 1
> To Hit: 5+
> TSM: 0
> Notes:Black Templars within 15cm add +1 to morale, HQ Unit, Elite.
> Challenge.
> *modifiable to 6+ but no further
>
> Neophyte Bike
> Move: 30 cm
> Save: None
> CAF: +1
> Weapons: Bolters
> Range: 15cm
> Att. D: 1
> To Hit: 6+
> TSM: 0
> Notes:
>
> PROHIBITED ARMY CARDS:
> Tactical company*, Devastator Company, Devastator Detachment, Battle
> Company, Scout company, Scout Detachment, Bike Detachment* and
Librarian.
>
> *The Black Templars have their own version of these.
>
> NEW COMPANY CARDS:
> Black Templars Crusade company
> Contents: 3 BT crusade detachments, 1 Company HQ (command stand and
Rhino)
> Break Point: 19
> Morale: 2
> Victory Points: 10
> Cost: 950
>
> Crusader Terminator Company
> Contents: 3 Crusader Terminator Detachments, 1 Company HQ (Term.
Command
> stand, Land Raider Crusader)
> Break Point: 10
> Morale: 1
> Victory Points: 10
> Cost: 1000
>
> Land Raider Crusader Company
> Contents: 3 Land Raider Crusader Detachments, 1 Company HQ (Land
Raider
> Crusader)
> Break Point: 5
> Morale: 2
> Victory Points: 8
> Cost: 750
>
> NEW SUPPORT CARDS
> Black Templars Bike Detachment
> Contents: 5 Bike Stands, 3 Neophyte Bike Stands
> Break Point: 4
> Morale: 2
> Victory Points: 3
> Cost: 175
>
> Black Templars Crusade detachment
> Contents: 6 initiate (tactical) stands, 2 Neophyte stands, 4 Rhinos
> Break Point: 6
> Morale: 2
> Victory Points: 3
> Cost: 325
>
> Crusader Terminator Detachment
> Contents: 4 Terminator stands, 2 Land Raider Crusaders
> Break Point: 3
> Morale: 1
> Victory Points: 4
> Cost: 350
>
> Land Raider Crusader Detachment
> Contents: 3 Land Raider Crusaders
> Break Point: 2
> Morale: 2
> Victory Points: 3
> Cost: 250
>
> NEW SPECIAL CARDS
> Emperor's Champion
> Contents: 1 Emperor's champion stand and a Razorback
> Break Point: -
> Morale: 1
> Victory Points: 1
> Cost: 100
>
>
> Jyrki Saari
>
> -There is no such thing as free lunch because eating takes time and
time is
> money.
>
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