Hi,
The winter has finally come to the North, it's the greatest of times!
I feel it is neccesary for us to start out with a discussion on how chaos
should be viewed! What do we wish chaos to be? What is Chaos USP?
I've always regarded Chaos as a slow moving close combat Army, however latly
it has embrace almost every aspect of the game. It can either be a rapid
deployment force like Eldar and SM, It can be a slow moving CC force like
Tyranids or orks, or it can be a shooty army like IG, Squats and Slann. All
nicly wrapped up in the 3 army lists we have today.
I think se need to work out the chaos undivided list first and then see if
we really need to make separate CSM and Cultist army list. IMHO a good,
solid, back to basic and balanced Chaos list should give the player the
opportunity to focus his army in the direction desired without corrupting
the balance of the game.
As I said I regard Chaos as a CC army, albeit their lack of good
transportation opportunities. This is compencated by partly large number of
troops in a detachment, and really good CC values. They are also equipped
with ceirtain equippment that will protect their advance. Tzeench towers
will give them cover, Plague tower and Lord of battles wil soak up incomming
fire.
For me this is the essence of chaos! I believe the balance problem with
caos, arises with the Marines. This is because the Marines are so different
in nature from the rest of the army. This I believe can be solved in two
easy steps.
Firstly let the Marine legions become special cards that the primarcs could
take with them into battle. However, in order for this to work properly we
should check to see if ceirtain other Chaos engines could be classified as
special cards also! For instance Banelord Titans, Firelords, Contagion
Plague Engines and Slaanesh knights.
Secondly increase the price of rhinos for chaos from 50 to a 100 or even 150
points. And of course deny Chaos Thunderhawks.
Comments please!
Nils
Lord of Winter
-----Original Message-----
From: AntiChrist [mailto:seimejote_at_...]
Sent: 20. november 2002 09:09
To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [NetEpic ML] Re: Thoughts on Chaos
Yes, but if we mantain the same structure, we can field:
1 Greater Dæmon
5 Support cards (including the company)
1 Special card
...end of the Traitor Legion army list. Anyone for a 1000pts battle?
--- In netepic_at_y..., deaconblue3_at_j... wrote:
> Jyrki writes:
> But is the primarch present in _every_ single battle fought by
forces of
> a legion? Especially since there are countless splinter legions
which
> have broken off from the parent legion. Besides, not all primarchs
are
> around any more. Horus and Night Haunter at least have bit the
bullet.
>
>
> -->I'll handle this in two parts. First, the "over use" of the
> Primarchs. IMO, this only matters if you're playing a campaign,
with
> simultaneous battles happening, though played out over different
days.
> In this case, the Primarch would only be present at 1 battle, while
his
> troops could be involved in several. Otherwise, it's not that much
of an
> issue fluff or rules wise, just a matter of taste. Second, taking
on the
> issue of those traitors who have met final retribution. A Chaos
warlord,
> leading acrusade IMO can act in the same manor as a Greater Demon.
While
> not having any nifty Chaos powers, or serious stats, they are on
the cusp
> of being such, and need to have a successful crusade to advance in
the
> Chaos Corporate structure. In this case, the war lord would either
> gather the various units by strength of will, or would have had them
> bequeathed to him/her/it by the various powers. Not a big chnage
or rule
> bender, just the addition of one paragraph and a stat line.
>
> Josh R
> "No matter where you go, there you are." B.Bonzai
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