RE: [NetEpic ML] Stagadon vs. LeviathanAs we are doing, prices have gone up, and some units completey dropped like Vanguards, Bullfrogs will no longer be a Company card but only support like Tech Guards better Knights. And if all want to cry about Slann lets just take a look at the army YOU play, ( say them now ) and I'll find units and Company cards that are wrong in points LOL :-{) evil grin
----- Original Message -----
From: eivind borgeteien
To: 'netepic_at_egroups.com'
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 4:34 AM
Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] Stagadon vs. Leviathan
The formula is only a tool to help get the prices right, not a "bible" to follow. We have been down this road before: You can not simply base a cost on stats alone, you have to take into account the overall situation of the army in question as well.
Maybe even the prices for Slann should be more expencive than the formula states. After all it has been developed based on every other army than the Slann. Just some food for thought...
In the case of Slann, they are a cheese-army that needs modifying if it shall remain in the netepic family. In the very unlikely event that the the prices turns out to be too high, we simply reduce them.
In all fairness, I think that you at least should accept these changes, I think there wil be more down the road.
Eivind
-----Original Message-----
From: Karlsen Rune [mailto:rune.karlsen_at_...]
Sent: 3. mai 2000 09:48
To: 'netepic_at_egroups.com'
Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] Stagadon vs. Leviathan
All i wanted to say was : Don't apply the point cost formula to
Slann, unless you do it to all the other armies as well. In all
fairness, we need to work out the correct prices with playtesting.
I agree that some units are too cheap, but the Slann should have
some that are, as all armies have. I suggest the Dracons and/or
Exodus Slann should have a reasonably priced company card.
If we're not going to use the formula, all we have to base the
costs on are other armies' units and playtesting..
Rune
-----Original Message-----
From: eivind borgeteien [mailto:eivind.borgeteien_at_...]
Sent: 2000-05-03 09:45
To: 'netepic_at_egroups.com'
Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] Stagadon vs. Leviathan
I do not think we need any further testing to see that the Slann in general
is too cheap.
Eivind
-----Original Message-----
From: Karlsen Rune [ mailto:rune.karlsen_at_...
<mailto:rune.karlsen_at_...> ]
Sent: 3. mai 2000 09:20
To: 'Netepic_at_egroups.com'
Subject: [NetEpic ML] Stagadon vs. Leviathan
I remember someone (Peter?) mentioning that the Stagadon was
too cheap (at 300). If you compare it with the Squat Leviathan (at 350),
you'll see that the Leviathan is better (less move, but longer range,
larger troop carrying capabilities, always fires on FF and lotsa nice
bolters for those pesky inf charges :-) ). I don't think we should apply
the cost formula for Slann, but not for the other armies. Granted, the
Squats have cheap Preatorians, and all armies have in fact things
which are cheap compared to the formula. I just want to make sure
that the Slann revision is fair, and that they don't suddenly become
a "point cost formula" army, while the others aren't...
Seems to me that the point costs of the other armies are more or
less based on playtesting and hunches rather than the formula.
Granted, the Slann havn't been tested extensively, but i still think
it's better to test them more before we go overboard with the
cost....
Rune
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