feel the tanks should get 2 saves one mod by weapon and the fixed 4+ repair.
Heavier armor, plus would really seperate the 2 types troops / tanks. Witch
Scarab rule do you like, I purfer the 4.0 version, the abillity to upgrade
is very tempting
----- Original Message -----
From: Karlsen Rune <rune.karlsen_at_...>
To: <netepic_at_egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 3:17 PM
Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] RE: [Net Epic ML] RE: [Net Epic ML] RE: [Net Epi c
ML] RE: [Net Epic ML] SoB more tha n meets the eye?
> I think Peter meant for the APC/MBT saves to be fixed at 5+ and
> 4+?
>
> The battlesuit isnt really necessary for the Assault troops, since
> they have warp power. Always thought that was a bit overkill...
>
> Apart from the third detachment thingie, and what i mentioned
> above, it sounds fair...
>
> Rune
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hellreich
> To: netepic_at_egroups.com
> Sent: 31.05.00 19:05
> Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] RE: [Net Epic ML] RE: [Net Epic ML] RE: [Net
Epic
> ML] RE: [Net Epic ML] SoB more tha n meets the eye?
>
> so drop the fixed save for troops and give all Necron a 4+ repair roll,
> APC's will get a modifyable save of 5+, with MBT getting a 4+. Use the
> old
> Sarabs rules or use v 4.0 rules with new 100pt cost, and do away with
> the
> Battle Suits, no chance of repair from close combat. With this cost will
> be,
> Necron Raider CC worth 700pts, Assault CC card worth 825pts, Drop the 2
> support cards by 100pts or 125pts, now they are starting to become a
> unit to
> buy. The tanks APC and MBT will be lowered by 75 points, and the Super
> Heavy
> and Preatorian will stay the same. Flyers will also stay the same. How
> dose
> this sound to you guys LOL? comments?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Peter Ramos <pramos2_at_...>
> To: <netepic_at_egroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 12:35 PM
> Subject: [NetEpic ML] RE: [Net Epic ML] RE: [Net Epic ML] RE: [Net Epic
> ML]
> RE: [Net Epic ML] SoB more tha n meets the eye?
>
>
> > Hi!
> >
> > I'd like uniformity, either a repair roll of 5+ or 4+. The repair roll
> is
> > much more useful for the vehicles than infantry, since it doesn't work
> in
> > close combat.
> >
> > I kind of prefer the 4+ because most units in epic with a similar
> power
> has
> > a 4+, easy to remember.
> >
> > Regarding the vehicle costs, I feel we not need to change them since
> most
> > had a better save that was modifiable to the fixed save, If we change
> it
> > they have a lower fixed save, it seems to balance out in my view. Or
> course
> > you guys have more experience in this matter so its up to you.
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: hellreich [mailto:hellreich_at_...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 9:58 AM
> > To: netepic_at_egroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] RE: [Net Epic ML] RE: [Net Epic ML] RE: [Net
> > Epic ML] SoB more tha n meets the eye?
> >
> >
> > and then go back to the old Scarabs way of use, leave troops at the 5+
> > repair also or will you be going to the 4+, just one roll for all?
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Peter Ramos <pramos2_at_...>
> > To: <netepic_at_egroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 10:08 AM
> > Subject: [NetEpic ML] RE: [Net Epic ML] RE: [Net Epic ML] RE: [Net
> Epic
> ML]
> > SoB more tha n meets the eye?
> >
> >
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > If it is decided to be changed I too would go with Darius's
> suggestion.
> > Also
> > > I think we should give the necron vehicles a straight fixed save by
> type
> > and
> > > eliminate the confusion as Rune suggests.
> > >
> > > Example:
> > >
> > > APC type vehicle straight 5+ save
> > >
> > > Most other tanks straight 4+ save
> > >
> > > There is only one super heavy we can leave at 3+ fixed or just 4+
> fixed
> > >
> > > I think we should tend towards simplification, the above changes
> makes
> > them
> > > equally powerful in a simpler easier to remember fashion.
> > >
> > > Opinions?
> > >
> > > Peter
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Karlsen Rune [mailto:rune.karlsen_at_...]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 1:53 AM
> > > To: 'netepic_at_egroups.com'
> > > Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] RE: [Net Epic ML] RE: [Net Epic ML] SoB
> more
> > > tha n meets the eye?
> > >
> > >
> > > If we're going with one save, i have to agree with Dardman. A
> > > 4+ regen roll for all Necrons and Troop saves at 6+. Also, please
> > > clean up the different saves for the Necron vehicles. This and
> > > that modifiable to this and that. It's hard to remember. How about
> > > just giving all Necron Vehicles the same save?
> > > Also, if they're to be numerous, please add the removed detachment
> > > again!
> > >
> > > Rune
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Peter Ramos [mailto:pramos2_at_...]
> > > Sent: 2000-05-31 03:30
> > > To: netepic_at_egroups.com
> > > Subject: [NetEpic ML] RE: [Net Epic ML] RE: [Net Epic ML] SoB more
> than
> > > meets the eye?
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > I guess what we would like is to make these guy more viable. The
> fluff
> > says
> > > these guys are numerous, but with these powers and high cost that is
> not
> > > shown. I think with a single save (repair roll) and a lower cost
> perhaps
> > > they may be fielded more and work as they are intended.
> > >
> > > Opinions?
> > >
> > > Peter
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: dardman [mailto:dardman_at_...]
> > > Sent: Monday, May 29, 2000 8:25 PM
> > > To: netepic_at_egroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] RE: [Net Epic ML] SoB more than meets the
> eye?
> > >
> > >
> > > I think you misunderstood me. All Necron self-repairs would be a 4+
> and
> > the
> > > Necron infantry wouldn't get an armor save(or only 6+) just the
> repair
> > roll.
> > > This is similar to the creatures that can regenerate. Personally I
> think
> > the
> > > Necrons are over-priced and this would justify their price by giving
> both
> > > infantry and vehicles better self-repair chances (there would be no
> change
> > > in price because it is now easier to take out a Necron warrior).
> This is
> > the
> > > option I offered but I really don't see a need to change them.
> > > Darius
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