leave as is or, move it to the end of the Combat Phase this is the easiest
way to fix it no rule change just one little retype
----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Ramos <pramos2_at_...>
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Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 3:39 PM
Subject: [NetEpic ML] RE: [Net Epic ML] silly question?
> Hi!
>
> I've watched this one with interest and can see valid points on both sides
> of the argument, here's a possible solution why not make the rule that
elite
> units are one pinning class HIGHER than they normally are. This represents
> their kick-ass ability and close combat prowess. Also it keeps things
> simple, makes elites worth something than they are now and eliminates the
> annoying points you make while not making them supermen.
>
> Thus in your terminator example, gretchen would not cut it against them,
> something more would be needed, but they can still harass marines and
other
> "lesser" troops.
>
> How's that?
>
> Peter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Albert Farr� Benet [mailto:cibernyam_at_...]
> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 9:07 AM
> To: netepic_at_egroups.com
> Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] silly question?
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "dardman" <dardman_at_...>
> >Reply-To: netepic_at_egroups.com
> >To: <netepic_at_egroups.com>
> >Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] silly question?
> >Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 07:19:45 -0400
> >
> >These rules are not "cheezie" but the rules. Cannon fodder is used to
soak
> >up damage and cause valuable units to waste their time and firepower on
> >them. So if I charge your command units with my rhinos you better fire at
> >them unless you aren't pinned by them because you will lose your shots.
> >Tactics and strategy.
> >Darius
> >
>
> OK, OK, but just imagine four terminator stands vs four gretchin stands
> charging into CC.
> Twenty cold-blooded elite veteran marines in terminator-one-inch-thick
> armour forced to waste their twenty sustained fire bolters (not to say
> assault cannons and cyclone launchers) because a pack of stupid greenies
who
> can't tie their shoes by themselves come shouting, ready to die with their
> 4+ Morale ( or should I point 5+ ? I remember gretchins being stupid and
> insanly coward not suicidal fanatics ).
>
> Under old rules, there was also a very common tactic with SM. You dropped
> your troops behind enemy lines with gunshps, and if gunships survived next
> turn, they could be used to pin vehicles by the rear side so they couldn't
> fire at all: you loose 1 VP he wastes all his firing dice and becomes a
> sitting duck ready to be fryed in Advance fire. Cheezie, huh?
>
> That's not fair at all. If rules are not Ok they should be changed.
>
> And yes, those were very extreme examples, but think about it.
>
>
>
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