Hi!
The wording is problematic. Slann dont roll for morale for fear and terror
from greater demons since they dont fear them. They also dont break and run
when chaos kills of their troops due to hatred. The Vp's are awarded as
usual they just dont need to check for falling on fall back orders against
these armies.
Now it is is different thing entirely when a saving throw in required and
the morale is used as the target number, they can still get hurt.
Note this benefit is ONLY applicable to fighting chaos and tyranids, in all
other cases all checks apply in full.
I will reword this completely.
Peter
>From: Karlsen Rune <rune.karlsen_at_...>
>Reply-To: netepic_at_egroups.com
>To: "'netepic_at_egroups.com'" <netepic_at_egroups.com>
>Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] Slann moral
>Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 15:37:44 +0200
>
> I think Peter meant that Slann doesn't have to take a morale test
>when
> broken against Tyranids and Chaos. They continue to fight on,
>regardless
> of how many they have lost. If that is so, then we have
>misunderstood
> completely! Just comes to show once again how paramount exact
> wording of the rules are.
>
> When it comes to the Nemesis, i agree that you get a lot for your
> money so to speak. In defence of the Slann, there seems to me
> that every army gets something cheaper than the formula.
> Compare the Squat Praetorians. They're tougher to take out
> than a titan (due to the hit locations), have as much (if not more)
> firepower, a 360 degree fire arc, move on charge and fire on FF.
> All this for less than 3 shadowswords...much less..
> I still havn't heard anyone but me take this up, and im betting
>noone
> will. Why? Because the squats seem to be balanced.
> The Nemesis is better than the other tanks, and priced the
>same.
>A more realistic pricing would perhaps be better, allthough id like
>to see the result of some playtesting before any decisions are made.
>
>Rune
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nils.saugen_at_... [mailto:nils.saugen@...]
> Sent: 2000-08-24 15:23
> To: netepic_at_egroups.com
> Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] Slann moral
>
> Hi,
>
> Well, we haven't put it to the test yet. I've read through
>the rules a
> couple of times and it seems much more balanced, as I hope
>they are for
> Runes sake. He's a really entusiastic player and enjoys the
>game
> tremendously, but due to the cheesyness of the Slann army he
>has experienced
> some reluctance from the rest of us to face him on the
>tabletop.
>
> There is still some concerns though, the moral test imunity
>was one (If it
> doesen't protect against terror attacks and that type of
>special abilities,
> what's the benefit of this ability then?), secondly look at
>the Nemesis MBT
> support card, 9 attacks at 3+, -3, +1 to template damage
>rolls. regen
> ability, electrohull, 2+ save... .all for 300 points....
>HMMMM thats a real
> bargain IMO!!!
>
> What we'll do is to play a couple of games and then make
>some comments on
> what we think would improve the Slann army (if necessary).
>
> As I see it, the problem with this army list has been that
>we initially gave
> the units far to good stats, and as always it is very
>difficult to take back
> something that is already given. So I still have a feeling
>that some of the
> stats might be to good, like the Nemesis example above.
>There is one ting to
> compensate by rising the prices, but then we stand in fear
>of making the
> units so expencive that the Slann will have really big
>problems securing
> enough VPs. So I guess we have to work both angels and meet
>somvere
> inbetween, hopefully the latest set of rules has done just
>that! But as I
> said, we'll have to test the army against several diffrent
>oponents to se
> wheter or not we have achieved nirvana :)
>
> Or we could let Jyrki work his magic on the Slann
>armylist!!!!! I'm really
> impressed with what he has done with the battlesisters!!!
>
> I'm also looking forward to seeing the Dark Eldar list,
>since I wasn't able
> to get a hold of them earlier I've been working on my own
>Dark Eldar list,
> and I might have some input to the Dark Eldar rules once
>they are
> complete/posted.
>
> Nils
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: peter ramos [SMTP:ramospeter_at_...]
> > Sent: 24. august 2000 14:17
> > To: netepic_at_egroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] Slann moral
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > I think this is porly phrased, they are immune to tests,
>but attacks that
> > happen to use the morale stat as a saving throw they are
>not immune to. A
> > simple sentence in their to this effect will clear it up.
> >
> > How have you found the slann update otherwise?
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> > >From: nils.saugen_at_...
> > >Reply-To: netepic_at_egroups.com
> > >To: netepic_at_egroups.com
> > >Subject: [NetEpic ML] Slann moral
> > >Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 10:42:54 +0200
> > >
> > >Hi,
> > >
> > >I've had some concerns regarding the Slann imunity to
>terror tests. So I
> > >would suggest a slight change. Many of the Chaos terror
>powers are
> > >accompanied by a penalty to the moral test. So I suggest
>that the Slann
> > is
> > >immune to this penalty, but not to the actual test.
> > >
> > >For instance Fulgrims "take-over" power is done with a -2
>penalty. So a
> > >space marine untit would have an effective morale score
>of 4+ for this
> > >test,
> > >where as a slann unit would still have 2+ save.
> > >
> > >This will still maintain Slanns recilience to terrortest,
>while still
> > >allowing chaos(and others) a slight chance of actually
>using it's
> > >power!!!!
> > >
> > >Nils
> >
> >
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