RE: [NetEpic ML] Slann victorious again?

From: Karlsen Rune <rune.karlsen_at_...>
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 09:39:46 +0200

Hi Warprat :)

I've read some of the fluff, but what i miss is a "complete"
fluff'o'pendium. There seems to be so many pieces here and
there in various magazines and such. Whatever happened to
the fluff project?

Heh, you're definetly older than me, and i sure like to have
fun. I guess im just not very good at "taking on a roll" if
you'd like to call it that. Whatever your playing fancies,
as long as you have fun, it doesnt really matter what the
outcome is or how you play. Perhaps ill become more childish
with age? ;)

My best wishes to you and your family, id sure like to have
a daughter/son as Co-general one day :) By then, we'll
probably all play Virtua-Epic(TM) (with Virtual Reality glasses) online
on huge databases with thousands of people in a gigantic tournament!
Now that would be cool!:) Real-Time video and sound feed from
your opponent in Japan, cursing you as you execute a perfectly
timed move. A Video quality 3D Epic setting in which you could walk
around, ordering your lifesize troops to attack the pesky humies.
Seeing rockets fired and missing. The Orks would be hilarious to
watch, while the frightening visage of Chaos or the Tyranids would
be enought to scare the hell out of anybody. There would, of course,
be a gore setting, so you could se bodyparts flying and blood splattering.
Complete in 5 channel Stereo surround of course :)

Guess im a dreamer!

Rune :)



-----Original Message-----
From: warprat [mailto:warprat_at_...]
Sent: 12. oktober 2000 09:26
To: netepic_at_egroups.com
Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] Slann victorious again?


Hi Rune!

If you get your hands on the 2nd Edition rules, put out Games Workshop,
or a White Dwarf or two, it would help to "understand" the Fluff a bit
better. The Battles book was also good. You can find it on e-Bay.

I actually only started playing, shortly after 2nd Edition came out.
I didn't own any mini's, or rules, untill a year ago. My first wife
didn't like me gaming so much, but my 2nd wife is VERY understanding.

I've got a 17 year old daughter who's pretty good at playing wargames,
and Magic Cards. Kind of a father/daughter thing. I'd take her as a
Co-General any day. She's very smart, and very sneaky! I like to think
she learned it from me. Can you tell I'm a proud father?

What are you talking about, GROWN MAN? Are you too old to have fun?
Hey, I'm 39. Gosh, I'll be 40 in 3 days. Time sure flys, when your
having fun.

When I turned 19, I gave my N-Scale train set to a younger boy, because
I thought I was too old for it. Boy, would I LOVE to have that train
set now! ;)

You know what they say, "Men will be boys!"



Best Wishes, Rune!

Warprat ;)




Karlsen Rune wrote:
>
> Ahh..We don't use snapfire rules. It was decided by Nils and
> Eivind in "ancient times" that this would slow the game down.
> Me? Im all for it, but these guys are my equals at stubbornness,
> if not worse (Hi Eivind! :).
>
> I think it's nice that you play the way you do, but you have to
> understand that not all of us are old Titan Legion or whatnot
> players. I was introduced to Epic only a few years ago, and had
> previously mostly played RPG's. I don't really know the fluff
> or history, and haven't really seen alot of it lying around.
> Besides, im a grown man, i dont really see myself saying something
> like "For the glory of the Slann" or "For the balance" or something
> while making a move. If i say something, it'll be more like "Eat that,
> you son of a motherless goat!" or "Shove that down your throat"! ;)
> We have lots of fun playing, and as far as i can remember, noone
> has actually got mad....
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: warprat [mailto:warprat_at_...]
> Sent: 12. oktober 2000 07:25
> To: netepic_at_egroups.com
> Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] Slann victorious again?
>
> Hi Rune!
>
> No need to be sorry. You simply have a different opinion, and GREAT
> that you do! It makes for better ideas and discussion.
>
> Sure.... the Bloodletters DO regen in the End Phase, but the shooting
> happens during the Bloodletter's movement.
>
> It works like this:
>
> 1) Chaos player starts to move the first Bloodletter of a detachment.
>
> 2) Marine player Snap fires at maximum range.
>
> 3) Bloodletter is killed, and gets placed on it's side, for possible
> regeneration at the END of the turn.
>
> 4) Future moves by that detachment MUST maintain coherancy to the fallen
> unit.
>
> The Necron Assaults have a 40cm jump range, and they can not be Snap
> fired at. They make it EVERY time!
>
> As for the Scarabs...
>
> I'll ask you the same question I asked Hellreich.
>
> The Scarab "Fluff" says that Necrons are USUALLY accompanied by Scarabs.
>
> When you take Necrons, do Scarabs usually accompany them?
>
> To me, not usually taking them, would SPOIL the unique flavor of the
> army. Kind of like saying, "I'm taking Terminators, without the
> Landraiders."
>
> You give up the flavor of the game, for a more effective way to make a
> POWER army.
>
> When you do that, you lose SO MUCH of the essence. So much of the fun!
> Space Marine is not about simply making a POWER army and destoying your
> opponents, as satisfying as that may be.
>
> It's about playing a science fiction game, and letting yourself
> experience that Universe, experience the fun.
>
> When I take the Orcs, I try to think like the Orcs. When my units get
> blown up, by misfires and such, I try to laugh at their misfortune.
> "Those guud fur nuthin Gitz!" I throw Orks away, like yesterdays news.
>
> When I play Eldar, I remember their elegance and grace. I'm a little
> bit saddend to see each stand die... the end of a proud race.
>
> When I play Imperials, I remember the Emperor. If I'm ready to make a
> "make or break move", perhaps something desperate. I'll invoke the
> Emperors name, and say "For the Emperor", just before I make that move.
>
> I try to get in the "Spirit" of the game. For me, it's a lot of the
> fun. No matter if I win or lose, I had a great time doing it. And in
> the company of friends, who I admire and respect.
>
> Games Workshop tried to make the armies unique by making the Company,
> Support and Special cards. Some items are mandatory, to retain the
> army's flavor.
>
> An item that is USUALLY used, seems to be one of those, to me.
>
> Warprat ;)
>
> Karlsen Rune wrote:
> >
> > Doesnt the bloodletters regen in the end phase as well? If so, then
> > the cohesion rule is no problem. Necron Assaults are also useless
> > if you cant get them into CC, they have no ranged weaponry.
> >
> > Why make a unit mandatory? I cant see the reason for this, sorry..
> >
> > Rune
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: warprat [mailto:warprat_at_...]
> > Sent: 11. oktober 2000 01:44
> > To: netepic_at_egroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] Slann victorious again?
> >
> > Hi Hellreich!
> >
> > Your point about the Bloodletters is, of course, true. But also
> > consider that Chaos does not have good long range firepower.
> > Bloodletters must make a slow appoach. A stand of them, knocked down to
> > regenerate, will stop the whole detachment, due to unit cohesion.
> >
> > The Necrons, if they retain the jump ability, avoid this problem neatly.
> > First Fire, and Snap fire is not allowed against them.
> >
> > Bloodletters are useless, if they don't get into Close Combat. Almost
> > any Marine force can Snap fire against them, limit thier movement, then
> > destroy them at range. Also, in order to take the Bloodletters, you
> > would also have to purchase a Greater Deamon of Korne. You can't JUST
> > buy the Bloodletters like you can the Necrons.
> >
> > What do you think about the Scarabs? The fluff says they USUALLY
> > accompany a Necron force. Do you purchase these for your Necrons
> > usually? If not, then I suggest we change the Fluff, or make them
> > mandatory.
> >
> > Warprat ;)
> >
> > hellreich wrote:
> > >
> > > Necron Infantry should not be able to warp jump, they did not have
this
> > > before and some how it has snuck in. They should be slow moving
troops,
> > that
> > > have to spend points on transports to move fast this is were the
messup
> > is.
> > > As for your math it is a good point be a febble one at that, try this
> one
> > > and tell me who wins 600 pts of Bloodletters to 600 pts of SM forces.
> > these
> > > guys are about the same as Necron but they get to regen in CC.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: warprat <warprat_at_...>
> > > To: <netepic_at_egroups.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 6:13 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] Slann victorious again?
> > >
> > > > Hi Rune!
> > > >
> > > > The result is very bad, for the Imperials. Sorry!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Warprat ;)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Karlsen Rune wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Is the cost unbalanced? If you take 600 points of CC SM forces and
> > > > > pitch them against the Necrons, what is the result?
> > > > >
> > > > > Rune
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: warprat [mailto:warprat_at_...]
> > > > > Sent: 10. oktober 2000 11:55
> > > > > To: netepic_at_egroups.com
> > > > > Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] Slann victorious again?
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Nils!
> > > > >
> > > > > Are you sure about the regeneration? I was thinking the same
thing
> as
> > > > > you, BUT I couldn't find it in the rules. Anyway, very few
Necrons
> > were
> > > > > killed by CC.
> > > > >
> > > > > Even if -1 surprise mod is not used, and the Necrons killed in CC
do
> > not
> > > > > regenerate, the end result is unballanced.
> > > > >
> > > > > Warprat ;)
> > > > >
> > > > > nils.saugen_at_... wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Two points, first Necrons killed in CC doesn't regenerate,
> secondly
> > > > > > Hellreich/Darius mentioned thet the -1 to CAF modifyer for units
> > > charged
> > > > > by
> > > > > > mechs popping out of the warp, was due to the size of the mech!
So
> > we
> > > have
> > > > > > do not apply that penalty to units charget by warping Necron
> Assault
> > > > > > warriors.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nils
> > > > > >
> > > > >
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