--- In netepic_at_egroups.com, nils.saugen_at_s... wrote:
>No, before the battle we agreed to end the fight at 40 points,
although we played 3100 points.
I dont want to bicker too much over the course of the battle, as it
easealy becomes too private for this fora, but I had only 3 movable
bikes left. Theese would never have held the bridge. They would have
been charged by the necron lord & shot to pieces by the infantry in
the building nearby.
Eivind
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: eivind borgeteien [SMTP:eivind.borgeteien_at_i...]
> > Sent: 23. oktober 2000 14:12
> > To: 'netepic_at_egroups.com'
> > Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] [Net Epic ML] Re: Battle report
Squat vs.
> > Ne cro n Mantis & CAF
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Eivind Borgeteien [ <mailto:eivind.borgeteien_at_i...>]
> > Sent: 23. oktober 2000 13:50
> > To: netepic_at_egroups.com
> > Subject: [NetEpic ML] [Net Epic ML] Re: Battle report Squat vs.
Ne cron
> > Mantis & CAF
> >
> >
> > --- In netepic_at_egroups.com, nils.saugen_at_s... wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I agree Peter, this was my first game with my Necron army, and
as I
> > said
> > > earlier I felt that this was a really close game. I had a half
> > desent plan,
> > > and stuck to that throughout the game. I still had to make a
gamble
> > in the
> > > last round. I was running out of troops fast in the city on the
> > left flank,
> > > and my push would have stopped, Eivind Still had a full
detachment
> > of
> > > Berserkers lurking in reserve and his airship had taken up a
perfect
> > > possition above the city, ready to rain death over my few
surviving
> > troops.
> > > The Mechs and the last nemesis would have been gonners for sure
in
> > the next
> > > round. So I had do win the game in the second turn, and did so
by 3
> > > points!!! Thas a close shave if you ask me!
> >
> > ---> 3 points? You won 42 to 26!
> >
> >
> > * I thought it was 48 - 26? I needed 45 points to win, thats 3
> > points....... Which you could easily have taken from me, by
securing one
> > of the bridges in the middle of the board with your remaining
bikes!
> >
> >
> >
> > > As for the mantis rolls, I was able to catch each detacment
with
> > two fields,
> > > so Eivind would have to check twice for each detacvhment. I
think
> > that the
> > > detachment roll is the better option, perhaps we could make the
to
> > hit roll
> > > 3+ as sort of a compensation?
> >
> > ----> NO NO NO NOWAY!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > Eivind
> > > Nils
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Peter Ramos [SMTP:primarch_at_b...]
> > > > Sent: 22. oktober 2000 22:10
> > > > To: netepic_at_egroups.com
> > > > Subject: [NetEpic ML] RE: [Net Epic ML] Re: Battle report
> > Squat vs.
> > > > Necron Mantis & CAF
> > > >
> > > > Hi!
> > > >
> > > > Most groups have a tendency to place objectives in buildings,
but
> > this may
> > > > be some what unfair to some armies. I suggest a 50% split
between
> > > > impassible
> > > > terrain to all but infantry (like buildings) and other
terrain
> > like
> > > > hilltops, woods, etc, where more units can access it.
> > > >
> > > > By the way as for the resolution of the mantis missiles, do
you
> > and your
> > > > opponent check each turn to see if affected models could get
out?
> > Its
> > > > important to do so since they just don't sit there until the
> > effect
> > > > passes.
> > > > Also they get to shoot (albeit at -1 to hit), so are not
totally
> > helpless.
> > > > In my game versus the slann, my knights were in the field of
> > effect and
> > > > decided to stay there and fire away, much to the slann's
chagrin.
> > > >
> > > > It's interesting how our experiences with them are so
dissimilar
> > in that
> > > > aspect. I'm not very impressed with the necron and have come
up
> > with
> > > > several
> > > > ways to neutralize them effective. Its more difficult to come
up
> > with
> > > > effective ways to use them well IMO. In any event more games
will
> > be
> > > > played
> > > > and more tactics will evolve, but I think you got to sit down
and
> > think of
> > > > how to exploit their weaknesses, it makes all the difference.
> > > >
> > > > Peter
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Eivind Borgeteien [ <mailto:eivind.borgeteien_at_i>...]
> > > > Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 3:55 PM
> > > > To: netepic_at_egroups.com
> > > > Subject: [NetEpic ML] Re: Battlereport Squat vs Necron Mantis
&
> > CAF
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In netepic_at_egroups.com, "hellreich" <hellreich_at_n...>
wrote:
> > > > I dont have an exact recollection of how the rolls went, I
> > remember
> > > > I've rolled some bad rolls and some good. I even rolled a
couple
> > of
> > > > 11s an 12s without that helping me much.
> > > >
> > > > I dont know how you play, but we mostly place OPs in
buildings,
> > woods
> > > > and ruins. You cant go into such terrain with bikes. Then
> > berserkers
> > > > is the only alternative unit to get those necron inf away
from the
> > > > OPs
> > > >
> > > > Where do you guys normally place OPs?
> > > >
> > > > I really dont think the berserkers is all that bad with a +2
CAF
> > and
> > > > rerolls 1s. It even better than tactical SM. But compared to
> > necrons,
> > > > everything sucks...
> > > >
> > > > Eivind
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Well one thing that you need to tell me before we lower the
CAF
> > even
> > > > farther
> > > > > is how were your dice rolls for the Squats they sound like
they
> > > > were below
> > > > > normal rolls? How were the rolls for the Necron player
high?.
> > For
> > > > Peter had
> > > > > no problem with the IG in killing them and Dairus had no
problem
> > > > fighting
> > > > > them with Tyran army.Don't know about the one roll for
Mantis
> > the
> > > > Slann need
> > > > > this so rules will stay roll for each model since it really
> > don't
> > > > harm
> > > > > troops and no VP are gained, plus they only can fire every
other
> > > > turn. Well
> > > > > one thing to remember when playing Squats is lots of bikes
and
> > more
> > > > bikes,
> > > > > the Beserkers are a wast of points unless they are on a
Train.
> > With
> > > > bikes
> > > > > you pay 50 pts more but get a Higher CAF,20cm more move and
3
> > more
> > > > models,
> > > > > these are the CC guys the Squats need to fight against the
> > Necron.
> > > > LOL :-)
> > > > > heck Beserkers aren't even a match for IG Tactical troops
with
> > a +0
> > > > CAF LOL
> > > > > :-).
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: Eivind Borgeteien <eivind.borgeteien_at_i...>
> > > > > To: <netepic_at_egroups.com>
> > > > > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 8:44 AM
> > > > > Subject: [NetEpic ML] Battlereport Squat vs Necron Mantis &
CAF
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > HI!
> > > > > > We tried out the rules where we checked for each
detachment
> > under
> > > > the
> > > > > > mantis-template rather than each stand. As it turned out,
the
> > > > > > difference was not that great, both my bikedetachments
was
> > > > stopped.
> > > > > > At least they now had a fighting chance, so I think my
group
> > wil
> > > > > > stick to this rule.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The CAF of the Necron Infantry should be reduced one
further.
> > My
> > > > > > berserkers ganged up 2 - 1 but didn't have a chance of
> > capturing
> > > > the
> > > > > > OP. (I had one surving and one still locked up in CC)Next
> > time I
> > > > play
> > > > > > up against the Slann/Necrons we will try this. Hopefully
we
> > can
> > > > > > schedule a refight soon...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To fight a pure necron army is somehwat different than to
> > fight a
> > > > > > mixed slann army, as the whole army regenerates on 4+.
The
> > squats
> > > > is
> > > > > > mainly a shooty army, so 50% of the casualities you
inflict
> > will
> > > > > > regenerate. To ensure some balance you have to have a
fighting
> > > > chance
> > > > > > of inflicting some certian casualities. Its OK that your
units
> > > > break
> > > > > > in the process, but then at least you have done some
damage.
> > As
> > > > the
> > > > > > Necrons don't check for morale, they always stick around
to
> > give
> > > > you
> > > > > > some further beating.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Eivind
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In netepic_at_egroups.com, "Eivind Borgeteien"
> > > > > > <eivind.borgeteien_at_i...> wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi!
> > > > > > > I have just uploeded a battlereport to the vault. Hope
you
> > all
> > > > > > enjoy
> > > > > > > it. Thought it was to big to post the regular way.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thank god I have the day off tomorow!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Goodnight!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Eivind
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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