RE: [NetEpic ML] [Net Epic ML] Re: Battle report Squat vs. Ne cro n Mantis & CAF

From: <nils.saugen_at_...>
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 14:07:35 +0200

> -----Original Message-----
> From: eivind borgeteien [SMTP:eivind.borgeteien_at_...]
> Sent: 23. oktober 2000 14:12
> To: 'netepic_at_egroups.com'
> Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] [Net Epic ML] Re: Battle report Squat vs.
> Ne cro n Mantis & CAF
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eivind Borgeteien [ <mailto:eivind.borgeteien_at_...>]
> Sent: 23. oktober 2000 13:50
> To: netepic_at_egroups.com
> Subject: [NetEpic ML] [Net Epic ML] Re: Battle report Squat vs. Ne cron
> Mantis & CAF
>
>
> --- In netepic_at_egroups.com, nils.saugen_at_s... wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I agree Peter, this was my first game with my Necron army, and as I
> said
> > earlier I felt that this was a really close game. I had a half
> desent plan,
> > and stuck to that throughout the game. I still had to make a gamble
> in the
> > last round. I was running out of troops fast in the city on the
> left flank,
> > and my push would have stopped, Eivind Still had a full detachment
> of
> > Berserkers lurking in reserve and his airship had taken up a perfect
> > possition above the city, ready to rain death over my few surviving
> troops.
> > The Mechs and the last nemesis would have been gonners for sure in
> the next
> > round. So I had do win the game in the second turn, and did so by 3
> > points!!! Thas a close shave if you ask me!
>
> ---> 3 points? You won 42 to 26!
>
>
> * I thought it was 48 - 26? I needed 45 points to win, thats 3
> points....... Which you could easily have taken from me, by securing one
> of the bridges in the middle of the board with your remaining bikes!
>
>
>
> > As for the mantis rolls, I was able to catch each detacment with
> two fields,
> > so Eivind would have to check twice for each detacvhment. I think
> that the
> > detachment roll is the better option, perhaps we could make the to
> hit roll
> > 3+ as sort of a compensation?
>
> ----> NO NO NO NOWAY!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Eivind
> > Nils
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Peter Ramos [SMTP:primarch_at_b...]
> > > Sent: 22. oktober 2000 22:10
> > > To: netepic_at_egroups.com
> > > Subject: [NetEpic ML] RE: [Net Epic ML] Re: Battle report
> Squat vs.
> > > Necron Mantis & CAF
> > >
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > Most groups have a tendency to place objectives in buildings, but
> this may
> > > be some what unfair to some armies. I suggest a 50% split between
> > > impassible
> > > terrain to all but infantry (like buildings) and other terrain
> like
> > > hilltops, woods, etc, where more units can access it.
> > >
> > > By the way as for the resolution of the mantis missiles, do you
> and your
> > > opponent check each turn to see if affected models could get out?
> Its
> > > important to do so since they just don't sit there until the
> effect
> > > passes.
> > > Also they get to shoot (albeit at -1 to hit), so are not totally
> helpless.
> > > In my game versus the slann, my knights were in the field of
> effect and
> > > decided to stay there and fire away, much to the slann's chagrin.
> > >
> > > It's interesting how our experiences with them are so dissimilar
> in that
> > > aspect. I'm not very impressed with the necron and have come up
> with
> > > several
> > > ways to neutralize them effective. Its more difficult to come up
> with
> > > effective ways to use them well IMO. In any event more games will
> be
> > > played
> > > and more tactics will evolve, but I think you got to sit down and
> think of
> > > how to exploit their weaknesses, it makes all the difference.
> > >
> > > Peter
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Eivind Borgeteien [ <mailto:eivind.borgeteien_at_i>...]
> > > Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 3:55 PM
> > > To: netepic_at_egroups.com
> > > Subject: [NetEpic ML] Re: Battlereport Squat vs Necron Mantis &
> CAF
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In netepic_at_egroups.com, "hellreich" <hellreich_at_n...> wrote:
> > > I dont have an exact recollection of how the rolls went, I
> remember
> > > I've rolled some bad rolls and some good. I even rolled a couple
> of
> > > 11s an 12s without that helping me much.
> > >
> > > I dont know how you play, but we mostly place OPs in buildings,
> woods
> > > and ruins. You cant go into such terrain with bikes. Then
> berserkers
> > > is the only alternative unit to get those necron inf away from the
> > > OPs
> > >
> > > Where do you guys normally place OPs?
> > >
> > > I really dont think the berserkers is all that bad with a +2 CAF
> and
> > > rerolls 1s. It even better than tactical SM. But compared to
> necrons,
> > > everything sucks...
> > >
> > > Eivind
> > >
> > >
> > > Well one thing that you need to tell me before we lower the CAF
> even
> > > farther
> > > > is how were your dice rolls for the Squats they sound like they
> > > were below
> > > > normal rolls? How were the rolls for the Necron player high?.
> For
> > > Peter had
> > > > no problem with the IG in killing them and Dairus had no problem
> > > fighting
> > > > them with Tyran army.Don't know about the one roll for Mantis
> the
> > > Slann need
> > > > this so rules will stay roll for each model since it really
> don't
> > > harm
> > > > troops and no VP are gained, plus they only can fire every other
> > > turn. Well
> > > > one thing to remember when playing Squats is lots of bikes and
> more
> > > bikes,
> > > > the Beserkers are a wast of points unless they are on a Train.
> With
> > > bikes
> > > > you pay 50 pts more but get a Higher CAF,20cm more move and 3
> more
> > > models,
> > > > these are the CC guys the Squats need to fight against the
> Necron.
> > > LOL :-)
> > > > heck Beserkers aren't even a match for IG Tactical troops with
> a +0
> > > CAF LOL
> > > > :-).
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Eivind Borgeteien <eivind.borgeteien_at_i...>
> > > > To: <netepic_at_egroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 8:44 AM
> > > > Subject: [NetEpic ML] Battlereport Squat vs Necron Mantis & CAF
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > HI!
> > > > > We tried out the rules where we checked for each detachment
> under
> > > the
> > > > > mantis-template rather than each stand. As it turned out, the
> > > > > difference was not that great, both my bikedetachments was
> > > stopped.
> > > > > At least they now had a fighting chance, so I think my group
> wil
> > > > > stick to this rule.
> > > > >
> > > > > The CAF of the Necron Infantry should be reduced one further.
> My
> > > > > berserkers ganged up 2 - 1 but didn't have a chance of
> capturing
> > > the
> > > > > OP. (I had one surving and one still locked up in CC)Next
> time I
> > > play
> > > > > up against the Slann/Necrons we will try this. Hopefully we
> can
> > > > > schedule a refight soon...
> > > > >
> > > > > To fight a pure necron army is somehwat different than to
> fight a
> > > > > mixed slann army, as the whole army regenerates on 4+. The
> squats
> > > is
> > > > > mainly a shooty army, so 50% of the casualities you inflict
> will
> > > > > regenerate. To ensure some balance you have to have a fighting
> > > chance
> > > > > of inflicting some certian casualities. Its OK that your units
> > > break
> > > > > in the process, but then at least you have done some damage.
> As
> > > the
> > > > > Necrons don't check for morale, they always stick around to
> give
> > > you
> > > > > some further beating.
> > > > >
> > > > > Eivind
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In netepic_at_egroups.com, "Eivind Borgeteien"
> > > > > <eivind.borgeteien_at_i...> wrote:
> > > > > > Hi!
> > > > > > I have just uploeded a battlereport to the vault. Hope you
> all
> > > > > enjoy
> > > > > > it. Thought it was to big to post the regular way.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank god I have the day off tomorow!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Goodnight!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Eivind
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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