Okay after much looking over and matching of what we have and have not change here is my input of cost changes.
Necron Tanks only lower by 25pts (lets not forget that they have electro hulls)
Necron break point should remain 50% ( their main strength is the fact of repair, and never flee from the field, so if you do break them they could still hold objectives on the battlefield) the 50% gives your opponet a fighting chance and balances out the fact you still control the objective.
Exodus Spwanband Company 750pts (since we are trying to make them like marines same cost, plus tank has electro hull)
Exodus Spwanband detachment 200pts ( most regular transports cost 50pts, they have none)
all other Exodus remain the same cost for the fact they were copies of other units, example the War Walkers are really SM Vets all I did was take away the Rhino and replace it with a warp pack.
True Slann I agree with the cost, if we use the new rules.
----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Ramos
To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 6:26 AM
Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] Slann points cost and army lists
Hi!
Tell you what, I'll start them today and jopefully they will be done in a day or two.
Peter
Karlsen Rune wrote:
Hi!How long do you think it would be before the Slann beta is done?Me and Nils are planning a 4k Slann Vs. IG game firstcoming mondayto test the new rules. Would be great if we had it by then :)Dont mean to rush you though, we all got RL's. We're just eager :)Rune
-----Original Message-----From: peter ramos [mailto:ramospeter_at_...]Sent: 12. februar 2001 21:59To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [NetEpic ML] Slann points cost and army listsHi!Thought you'd like that <grin>If any other list member is interested in testing the beta version let me know to send it to you when its done.I will require the testers to post their findings for discussion, both pros and cons.Peter
From: "Eivind Borgeteien" <eivind.borgeteien_at_...>Reply-To: netepic_at_yahoo!
groups.comTo: <netepic_at_yahoogroups.com>Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] Slann points cost and army listsDate: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 18:41:59 +0100EUREKA!!!!This is good!My Squat and Dark Angel armies will be ready anyday!!!
(Well, eeehhh,
almost any day that is.....)Eivind----- Original Message -----From: "peter ramos" <ramospeter_at_...>To: <netepic_at_yahoogroups.com>Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 6:22 PMSubject: Re: [NetEpic ML] Slann points cost and army lists
Hi!Okay, lets do the following:Since I have already decided some ti!
me ago to leave the
the slann army
list
editing last, tehre is no rush, besides i am not making
army cards for
them
until I paint them.I will issue a "beta" copy to those who are going to test
then in the
following weeks, namely Nils, Eivind and Rune's group as
well as me and
Darius, Ed's group.This beta copy will include the list of suggested
changes, WITHOUT the
points change. In other words, test them with the current cost andmodifications. I'll also leave out the increased break
point issue until
you
guys get back to me.One idea I really liked was to not make a strict list as
far as who
could
ally with who, but let true, slann company cards attach
any type of
support
cards (both exodus or necron), and company cards of other
types can only
attach support card!
s of that type.This means necron/exodus support cards can ONLY be attached to
necron/exodus
company cards. You could not for example attach a necron
support card to
a
exodus company card or viceversa. True slann company
cards can attach
anycsupport card from any army for flexibility. Note true
slann support
cards however can ONLY be attached to true slann company cards.I really like it this is way, because people have the
flexibility they
need
without getting too much.I'll start this beta copy and distribute it to the
interested parties.
Peter
From: "Eivind Borgeteien" <eivind.borgeteien_at_...>Reply-To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.comTo: <netepic_at_yahoogroups.com>Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] Slann points cost and army listsDate: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:18:25 +0100HiI do agree with Nils here, lets not change the
pointcosts just yet.
Letsdo
one thing at a time!I think we should first playtest 8 - 10 games with the
current changes,
without the pricereduction. While doing this, we should
however have
the
new prices in mind to see if some of the units actually
should have a
new
price.If we should aply this new BP on necrons, the chance of
regenerating
should
go down, and the VPs should go up. The VPs for the squat
is on average
1
more than their pointcost should ascribe. This should
also be the case
of
necrons.I dont really like the 75% BP on the necron units, with
the save and
regeneration they are really hard to take out. Because
they where few
in
numbers, they where given good save and regeneration,
and on top of
this,
they dont check moral so they never fall back! There is
no need to
increase
their BP.Eivind----- Original Message -----From: <nils.saugen_at_...>To: <netepic_at_yahoogroups.com>Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 12:41 PM!
Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] Slann points cost and army lists
Hi,Firstly I think the Break Point increase of the
Necron is a bad
idea.
Secondly if we insists on changing it, I say lets be
consistent and
add
it
to all Necron units. But I think this should be
accompanied by both
a
cos!
t
and VP increase!If we decide to do the BP increase just for the
infantry, without a
cost
increase, then IMO we MUST add to the VP value of the
cards!!!!
Nils-----Original Message-----From: Peter Ramos [mailto:primarch_at_...]Sent: 10. februar 2001 22:47To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.comSubject: [NetEpic ML] Slann points cost and army lists!
Hi!Heres the proposed list and costs.Necron army listNecron raiders, 200 per detachment, 600 per company.
Break point is
12
(75% casualties)Necron assault, 250 per detachment, 750 per company.
Break point is
12
(75% casaulties)Necron protector, 100 per detachmentNecron cubekeeper, 150 per detachmentNecron cubemaster, 200 per detachmentNecron nemesis, 250 per detachmentNecron tormentor, 250 per detachmentNecron punisher, 250 per detachmentNecron mantis missile, 150 per detachment, no in !
groups of three
models.
Necron warp locust, 200 per modelNecron conqueror, 350 per modelNecron cloud dragon, 350 per squadronNecron moon dragon, 450 per squadronNecron ethereal dragon, 200 per modelNecron annihilator, 600 per modelNecron arachnid, 200 per detachment of threeNecron stalker, 600 per detachmentIn epic there are three ways to do the break points,
the first and
most
common is half (rounded up) the amount of total
units. Next is the 75%casualties, but with attendant increase in VP's (but not cost) as persquat. The third, which applies to the Necron is the 75%-100 percentcasualties for breaking applied to units that are mechanical in natureand suffer no mor!
ale checks (like robots). In this case there is NOattendant increase in VP for cost. Since necrons are the closest tothisgroup I have applied that. Note this ONLY applies to their infantry noother units.Do to the changes in weapon stats all vehicle units are reduced anaverage of 50 points.The above units MAY NOT be used by exodus slann.Exodus slann army listRegulator company, no changes in draons stays at 600
per company
Exodus raiders, no change 650 per companyExodus Spawnband, 650 per companyExodus warriors, 150 per detachmentExodus ghost warrriors, 200 per detachmentExodus ghost warriors, 250 per detachmentExodus skinks, 150 per detachmentExodus regulars, 200 per detachmentExodus kroxigor, 150 per detachmentExodus coldones, 200 per detachmentExodus taradon, 225 per detachmentExodus dragoon, 250 per detachmentExodus raptor, 150 per detachmentExodus mantis 100 per detachmentExodus frog, 250 per detachmentExodus tiger moth, 200 per detachmentExodus salamander, 150 per detachmentExodus dragon fly, 175 per detachmentExodus mage chief, 150 per cardExodus war cheif, 150 per cardExodus temple guard, 50 per cardExodus stagadon, 300 per modelOverall most exodus had a reduction of 50 points per
detachment.
Most
dracon units remain the same.The above units are ONLY exodus units. Can NOT be
used by necrons.
True slann, these units CAN be used by BOTH necron and exodusGravguard, 250 per detachment, 750 per co!
mpany. The
reduction of
range
and to hit number lowered this.Spawnguards 200 per detachment, 600 per companyTadpole mech, no change 300 per detachment, but
company card should
be
600 since all other armies get free commanderFrog mech, 400 per detachment, 800 for company, same as above.Bullfrog, 500 per detachment, support only.Vanguard, 400 points, special card onlyGreat magus 150 per cardMage in tadpole, 300 per modelMage in frog, 400 per modelMage in bull frog, 500 per modelTime mage, 500 per modelThese !
may all be used by BOTH sidesTitansI know it has been said that the exodus should not
have these, but
these
are really true slann units NOT exodus units,
shouldn't they be
brought
to wherever they support? I think they should be
shared units, at
least
the smaller mechs.I think I covered everything.PeterTo unsubscribe send e-mail to: netepic-unsubscribe_at_egroups.comTo unsubscribe send e-mail to: netepic-unsubscribe_at_egroups.com
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