Hi!
Tell you what, I'll start them today and jopefully they will be done in
a day or two.
Peter
Karlsen Rune wrote:
> Hi!
>
> How long do you think it would be before the Slann beta is done?
> Me and Nils are planning a 4k Slann Vs. IG game firstcoming monday
> to test the new rules. Would be great if we had it by then :)
> Dont mean to rush you though, we all got RL's. We're just eager :)
>
> Rune
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: peter ramos [mailto:ramospeter_at_...]
>> Sent: 12. februar 2001 21:59
>> To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] Slann points cost and army lists
>>
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> Thought you'd like that <grin>
>>
>> If any other list member is interested in testing the beta
>> version let me
>> know to send it to you when its done.
>>
>> I will require the testers to post their findings for
>> discussion, both pros
>> and cons.
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>
>>> From: "Eivind Borgeteien" <eivind.borgeteien_at_...>
>>> Reply-To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
>>> To: <netepic_at_yahoogroups.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] Slann points cost and army lists
>>> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 18:41:59 +0100
>>>
>>> EUREKA!!!!
>>>
>>> This is good!
>>>
>>> My Squat and Dark Angel armies will be ready anyday!!!
>>
>> (Well, eeehhh,
>>
>>> almost any day that is.....)
>>>
>>> Eivind
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "peter ramos" <ramospeter_at_...>
>>> To: <netepic_at_yahoogroups.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 6:22 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] Slann points cost and army lists
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi!
>>>>
>>>> Okay, lets do the following:
>>>>
>>>> Since I have already decided some time ago to leave the
>>>
>> the slann army
>>
>>> list
>>>
>>>> editing last, tehre is no rush, besides i am not making
>>>
>> army cards for
>>
>>> them
>>>
>>>> until I paint them.
>>>>
>>>> I will issue a "beta" copy to those who are going to test
>>>
>> then in the
>>
>>>> following weeks, namely Nils, Eivind and Rune's group as
>>>
>> well as me and
>>
>>>> Darius, Ed's group.
>>>>
>>>> This beta copy will include the list of suggested
>>>
>> changes, WITHOUT the
>>
>>>> points change. In other words, test them with the current cost and
>>>> modifications. I'll also leave out the increased break
>>>
>> point issue until
>>
>>> you
>>>
>>>> guys get back to me.
>>>>
>>>> One idea I really liked was to not make a strict list as
>>>
>> far as who
>>
>>> could
>>>
>>>> ally with who, but let true, slann company cards attach
>>>
>> any type of
>>
>>> support
>>>
>>>> cards (both exodus or necron), and company cards of other
>>>
>> types can only
>>
>>>> attach support cards of that type.
>>>>
>>>> This means necron/exodus support cards can ONLY be attached to
>>>
>>> necron/exodus
>>>
>>>> company cards. You could not for example attach a necron
>>>
>> support card to
>>
>>> a
>>>
>>>> exodus company card or viceversa. True slann company
>>>
>> cards can attach
>>
>>>> anycsupport card from any army for flexibility. Note true
>>>
>> slann support
>>
>>>> cards however can ONLY be attached to true slann company cards.
>>>>
>>>> I really like it this is way, because people have the
>>>
>> flexibility they
>>
>>> need
>>>
>>>> without getting too much.
>>>>
>>>> I'll start this beta copy and distribute it to the
>>>
>> interested parties.
>>
>>>> Peter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> From: "Eivind Borgeteien" <eivind.borgeteien_at_...>
>>>>> Reply-To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
>>>>> To: <netepic_at_yahoogroups.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] Slann points cost and army lists
>>>>> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:18:25 +0100
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi
>>>>> I do agree with Nils here, lets not change the
>>>>
>> pointcosts just yet.
>>
>>> Lets
>>> do
>>>
>>>>> one thing at a time!
>>>>>
>>>>> I think we should first playtest 8 - 10 games with the
>>>>
>> current changes,
>>
>>>>> without the pricereduction. While doing this, we should
>>>>
>> however have
>>
>>> the
>>>
>>>>> new prices in mind to see if some of the units actually
>>>>
>> should have a
>>
>>> new
>>>
>>>>> price.
>>>>>
>>>>> If we should aply this new BP on necrons, the chance of
>>>>
>> regenerating
>>
>>> should
>>>
>>>>> go down, and the VPs should go up. The VPs for the squat
>>>>
>> is on average
>>
>>> 1
>>>
>>>>> more than their pointcost should ascribe. This should
>>>>
>> also be the case
>>
>>> of
>>>
>>>>> necrons.
>>>>>
>>>>> I dont really like the 75% BP on the necron units, with
>>>>
>> the save and
>>
>>>>> regeneration they are really hard to take out. Because
>>>>
>> they where few
>>
>>> in
>>>
>>>>> numbers, they where given good save and regeneration,
>>>>
>> and on top of
>>
>>> this,
>>>
>>>>> they dont check moral so they never fall back! There is
>>>>
>> no need to
>>
>>> increase
>>>
>>>>> their BP.
>>>>>
>>>>> Eivind
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: <nils.saugen_at_...>
>>>>> To: <netepic_at_yahoogroups.com>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 12:41 PM
>>>>> Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] Slann points cost and army lists
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Firstly I think the Break Point increase of the
>>>>>
>> Necron is a bad
>>
>>> idea.
>>>
>>>>>> Secondly if we insists on changing it, I say lets be
>>>>>
>> consistent and
>>
>>> add
>>>
>>>>> it
>>>>>
>>>>>> to all Necron units. But I think this should be
>>>>>
>> accompanied by both
>>
>>> a
>>>
>>>>> cost
>>>>>
>>>>>> and VP increase!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If we decide to do the BP increase just for the
>>>>>
>> infantry, without a
>>
>>> cost
>>>
>>>>>> increase, then IMO we MUST add to the VP value of the
>>>>>
>> cards!!!!
>>
>>>>>> Nils
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Peter Ramos [mailto:primarch_at_...]
>>>>>> Sent: 10. februar 2001 22:47
>>>>>> To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: [NetEpic ML] Slann points cost and army lists
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Heres the proposed list and costs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Necron army list
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Necron raiders, 200 per detachment, 600 per company.
>>>>>
>> Break point is
>>
>>> 12
>>>
>>>>>> (75% casualties)
>>>>>> Necron assault, 250 per detachment, 750 per company.
>>>>>
>> Break point is
>>
>>> 12
>>>
>>>>>> (75% casaulties)
>>>>>> Necron protector, 100 per detachment
>>>>>> Necron cubekeeper, 150 per detachment
>>>>>> Necron cubemaster, 200 per detachment
>>>>>> Necron nemesis, 250 per detachment
>>>>>> Necron tormentor, 250 per detachment
>>>>>> Necron punisher, 250 per detachment
>>>>>> Necron mantis missile, 150 per detachment, no in
>>>>>
>> groups of three
>>
>>> models.
>>>
>>>>>> Necron warp locust, 200 per model
>>>>>> Necron conqueror, 350 per model
>>>>>> Necron cloud dragon, 350 per squadron
>>>>>> Necron moon dragon, 450 per squadron
>>>>>> Necron ethereal dragon, 200 per model
>>>>>> Necron annihilator, 600 per model
>>>>>> Necron arachnid, 200 per detachment of three
>>>>>> Necron stalker, 600 per detachment
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In epic there are three ways to do the break points,
>>>>>
>> the first and
>>
>>> most
>>>
>>>>>> common is half (rounded up) the amount of total
>>>>>
>> units. Next is the
>>
>>> 75%
>>>
>>>>>> casualties, but with attendant increase in VP's (but
>>>>>
>> not cost) as
>>
>>> per
>>>
>>>>>> squat. The third, which applies to the Necron is the
>>>>>
>> 75%-100 percent
>>
>>>>>> casualties for breaking applied to units that are
>>>>>
>> mechanical in
>>
>>> nature
>>>
>>>>>> and suffer no morale checks (like robots). In this
>>>>>
>> case there is NO
>>
>>>>>> attendant increase in VP for cost. Since necrons are
>>>>>
>> the closest to
>>
>>> this
>>>
>>>>>> group I have applied that. Note this ONLY applies to
>>>>>
>> their infantry
>>
>>> no
>>>
>>>>>> other units.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do to the changes in weapon stats all vehicle units
>>>>>
>> are reduced an
>>
>>>>>> average of 50 points.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The above units MAY NOT be used by exodus slann.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Exodus slann army list
>>>>>> Regulator company, no changes in draons stays at 600
>>>>>
>> per company
>>
>>>>>> Exodus raiders, no change 650 per company
>>>>>> Exodus Spawnband, 650 per company
>>>>>> Exodus warriors, 150 per detachment
>>>>>> Exodus ghost warrriors, 200 per detachment
>>>>>> Exodus ghost warriors, 250 per detachment
>>>>>> Exodus skinks, 150 per detachment
>>>>>> Exodus regulars, 200 per detachment
>>>>>> Exodus kroxigor, 150 per detachment
>>>>>> Exodus coldones, 200 per detachment
>>>>>> Exodus taradon, 225 per detachment
>>>>>> Exodus dragoon, 250 per detachment
>>>>>> Exodus raptor, 150 per detachment
>>>>>> Exodus mantis 100 per detachment
>>>>>> Exodus frog, 250 per detachment
>>>>>> Exodus tiger moth, 200 per detachment
>>>>>> Exodus salamander, 150 per detachment
>>>>>> Exodus dragon fly, 175 per detachment
>>>>>> Exodus mage chief, 150 per card
>>>>>> Exodus war cheif, 150 per card
>>>>>> Exodus temple guard, 50 per card
>>>>>> Exodus stagadon, 300 per model
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Overall most exodus had a reduction of 50 points per
>>>>>
>> detachment.
>>
>>> Most
>>>
>>>>>> dracon units remain the same.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The above units are ONLY exodus units. Can NOT be
>>>>>
>> used by necrons.
>>
>>>>>> True slann, these units CAN be used by BOTH necron and exodus
>>>>>> Gravguard, 250 per detachment, 750 per company. The
>>>>>
>> reduction of
>>
>>> range
>>>
>>>>>> and to hit number lowered this.
>>>>>> Spawnguards 200 per detachment, 600 per company
>>>>>> Tadpole mech, no change 300 per detachment, but
>>>>>
>> company card should
>>
>>> be
>>>
>>>>>> 600 since all other armies get free commander
>>>>>> Frog mech, 400 per detachment, 800 for company, same as above.
>>>>>> Bullfrog, 500 per detachment, support only.
>>>>>> Vanguard, 400 points, special card only
>>>>>> Great magus 150 per card
>>>>>> Mage in tadpole, 300 per model
>>>>>> Mage in frog, 400 per model
>>>>>> Mage in bull frog, 500 per model
>>>>>> Time mage, 500 per model
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These may all be used by BOTH sides
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Titans
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know it has been said that the exodus should not
>>>>>
>> have these, but
>>
>>> these
>>>
>>>>>> are really true slann units NOT exodus units,
>>>>>
>> shouldn't they be
>>
>>> brought
>>>
>>>>>> to wherever they support? I think they should be
>>>>>
>> shared units, at
>>
>>> least
>>>
>>>>>> the smaller mechs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think I covered everything.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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