Re: [Epic] Tyranids vs Tyranids

From: Aaron P Teske <Mithramuse+_at_...>
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 1997 13:41:55 -0400 (EDT)

Excerpts from Epic: 29-Aug-97 Re: [Epic] Tyranids vs Tyra.. by "Timothy J.
Kilgore"_at_mai
> >(One of my pet theories is that, in the end, Chaos and the Imperium ally
> >to try and stop the advance of the Hive Mind....)
>
> I really can't agree with you here, because of several of my own pet
> theories.

Cool, disagreeing theories. ^_^

>The basic to theories are that Chaos does not care about self
> preservation. Most of the troops have been alive for over 10,000 years and
> most of them would like to die and stay dead. With all the wars that have
> occured in the past 10,000 years logically all of the original traitors
> should be dead, if they actually died when they got shot down, hacked apart
> or whatever. However the chaos gods are very jealous entities. They do
> not want "thier" play things to leave thier aura of influence so when the
> chaos troopers "die" their soul is brought back to the warp and then brough
> back into exsistance through the eye of terror. Essentially chaos never
> dies just gets banished back to the eye of chaos. The only reason they
> continue to fight in wars is because they have been altered so far that
> they are only interested in war, its the only thing that breaks their
> monotanous existance

Well... GW has written a couple of flavortexts supporting your views, ie
the laconic Chaos Marine in one issue who calls a Space Marine "brother"
before killing him. I don't think there's enough support to say that
those Marines are the norm, however; many of the Chaos Marines could be
enjoying themselves. It just doesn't make for very pleasant flavor
text, and GW has been trying to be nicer of late.

> Also Chaos has a deep routed hatred for the Imperium. For chaos to be able
> to get over that hatred they would have to be interested in thier own life,
> which I have just argued they are not.

Well... you've argued that the Chaos Marines aren't interested in their
own life. That's irrelevant. What matters is whether the Chaos Powers
-- ie, Khorne, Nurgle, etc (and not just their avatars!) are interested
in living... without the enormous power provided by the repressed
emotions of countless billions of human beings, the Chaos Powers would
shrivel up and die as they consumed themselves. (OK, Slaanesh, and to
some extent Khorne, will lose a lot if the Eldar die, but it's attracted
lots of humans too.) If the very survival of the Powers is at stake,
they'll fight alongside humanity against the bugs.

(And now, a reply to the above letter....)

Excerpts from Epic: 29-Aug-97 Re: [Epic] Tyranids vs Tyra.. by "Timothy
J. Kilgore"_at_mai
>>So what, the Chaos Gods can bring their soldiers back to life, but they
>>can't get them to fight the 'Nids. Who says they have to fight side-by-side.
>>Maybe intercepting a Hulk in the middle of space and doing some damage would
>>work.
>>
>>Tyler
>
>Okay well now you are talking about something else, in the orginal post you
>said Allying,

Actually, I said allying, not Tyler.

>which means more than killing the same enemy. If Chaos and
>Imperial forces are allying they won't try to kill each other first. Now
>saying that they are both trying to kill tyranids is an entirely diiferent
>story because Chaos Marines will always kill Imperium before anything else,
>that single minded hatred sortt of thing

My text above aside, I don't really see a combined Chaos/human army
fighting against the Tyranids, but I *do* see strategic meetings and
conferences between the generals as to deployment of forces, overall
strategy, and the like. Using 'allying' was probably a poor choice,
since in game terms an ally is one the board beside you. I was thinking
more of how, say, the US and the Soviet Union were allies during World
War II.

However, I really don't think the Marines are *that* single minded. If
a larger threat appears, they'd go after that threat.

                    Aaron Teske
                    Mithramuse+_at_...
Received on Sat Aug 30 1997 - 17:41:55 UTC