Re: [Epic] [E40K] Seeking Space Marine wisdom...

From: Woofer <ss52dlh_at_...>
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 16:36:48 +1000

> ASSAULT SQUADS - The movement rate on these is too slow for vehicles and
> still much faster than Tac Marines. Do you use them in homogenous
> detachments?

No, mix 'em in with a few bikes and Vindicators and run like hell
across the board. That is, unless some bugger comes along and hits
you with blast markers .......

> SCOUTS - I'm really not seeing the value of Infiltration yet. They can be
> far from HQ and vulnerable to getting killed...and what else?

They can be used in drop pod detachments to drop in, go on assault
orders and run 40cm in their first move. Should be able to cause
some grief to an unwary support detachment at th rear.

> SUPPORT WEAPONS - Actually, I just want to point out that they haven't
> done these even though they claim to have released all SM figures.

Those and a heap of others. I have'nt seen Manticores, Griffons,
Demolishers, new IG aircraft, Bombards, etc, etc. Though, I will
admit that all are available under the old miniatures line. We in
Australia (as far as I'm aware) cannot order direct from the UK
anymore and they only stock blisters here so we can't get any single
older minatures.

> LAND RAIDERS - Another unit with an inconvenient speed. Do you mix them
> with other vehicles much? It would seem to slow the others down
> unnecessarily. One guy mentioned a unit of 5 LRs and 3 Predators; I'm not
> sure how the Preds compliment the LRs.

Glerk, that's all I have to say on the matter ..... No, you have
avalid point. Mix 'em in so that when the blast markers start coming
down, you can utilise either FP or SH wpns in the Det. As for speed,
you'll have to live with the slower speed of the Det as a whole.
Same thing goes for when the infantry de-bus : you're limited to 10cm
moves.

> VINDICATORS - Gotta love 'em. I mainly wonder whether people put them in
> 'assault detachments' or use them for support in a variety of detachments.

Goddang, they're good. Make for great bait in the detachment.

> BIKES & 'SPEEDERS - Again, what do you mix these with? Attack Bikes slow
> down Bikes; most vehicles slow Bikes and 'Speeders; Bikes can't 'skim' and
> so make 'Speeders less mobile. Should these be used in homogenous
> detachments?

Similarly to Land Raiders. Speeders IMHO are almost useless. They
are faster and more agile than the rest of the Marine army (well,
nearly so) and their utility within the army does not justify their
points cost. Bikes, on the other hand, are great. Mix the two
types, put up with a 30cm move and bingo ! FP and Assault all rolled
into one Det.

> DREADNOUGHTS - These seem great, but they're damn slow and you can't put
> them in transports. Are there any non-defensize uses for these?

Decoys, maybe ?
 
> THUNDERHAWKS - I get this. I was wondering what people transport in them.
> I was thinking of having two and transporting Librarian, 2-4 Terminators,
> 3-5 Tac Squads and 4 Devastator squads. They could hold objectives pretty
> well and rack up a lot of Firepower on OW (24).

Hmmmm. Must give that a go when the price of T'hawks drops from the
outlandish $24.95 Aus that they are now. I prefer the old ones.


Now I just know that the above thoughts will generate comment. It is
just my opinion and I would welcome sensible debate on the topic.

Woofer
Received on Mon Sep 29 1997 - 06:36:48 UTC