Re: [Epic] Net Epic

From: Seth Ben-Ezra <Azathoth_at_...>
Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 19:17:31 -0500

On 10 Feb 97 at 10:43, Philip Charlton wrote:

> > I suggest that movement regarding broken
> > units be taken immediately upon breaking.
>
> I think all movement should be done at the same time. Just say that units
> on "fall back" orders don't count for holding objectives. I have a faint
> suspicion this might be in the TL rules, anybody know?

Not that I found (I checked briefly). But I like the idea.

> > crack under the strain you dont get any free rides as far as Vp's, also
> > broken units may never claim objectives by be within 15 cm of them. Of
> ^^^^^^
> Do you mean "broken" as in (a) more than half destroyed or (b) on fall back
> orders? I agree with this if you mean (b).

Same here.

> > Secondly, it bothers me that units away from any command unit can easily
> > regroup if the morale roll is made, not that it cannot be done, but it
> > should happen under stiff penalties. This also encourages proper use of
> > HQ units as ralling points( as well as give them a more useful role ).
>
> That's what the base morale value is for! HQ stands generally give a bonus
> for this. Don't forget that there are squad leaders and platoon leaders in
> the detachments.

Good point. Most (all?) command units give that +1 to morale, which is
effective enough. Armies that require stricter command (IG, Orks)
already have rules for their command units.

> > Thirdly, certain feats really need guts to accomplish. Charging a tank
> > or other troop stands is what your trained for, but tackling titans ,
> > super heavies, and greater deamons- I think at least some morale checks
> > are in order! maybe even at a penalty.
>
> Ok, maybe a morale check at the base morale level could be required to engage
> SH's, Titan's, etc. I don't like the idea of penalties.

Don't Greater Demons already require a morale check? Personally, while
morale checks might be required vs. Titans, I don't think that super
heavies should necessarily require morale checks across the board.
Perhaps certain units (Leviathan or Colossus) but other units would
become far too powerful if they couldn't be pulled down in CC (Knights,
for example. Of course, since Knights aren't coming back, does it
matter? :] )

> > Fouthly, is firing at a unit that charges you a given if you have first
> > fire orders? doesn't it require disipline to accomplish such a task?
>
> Definitely should be allowed to do this without a test!! The only thing I
> would like to see changed about charging and FF is that command units
> should not be allowed to engage in CC and FF in the same turn, but that's
> not a morale issue.

Again I agree. IMHO, it is safe to assume enough discipline to accomplish
such a task unless the charging unit is exceptional (GD, etc.). Even
Orks and IG are still soldiers and wouldn't be shaken by the sight of
normal troopers charging at them. Now, if they were Juggernaughts,
that might be different....

Seth Ben-Ezra
Great Wolf
Received on Mon Feb 10 1997 - 00:17:31 UTC