Re: [Epic] Correct Infantry Comparsions

From: Dirk Vormann <DVormann_at_...-duisburg.de>
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 11:48:21 +0100 (MEZ)

On Tue, 2 Dec 1997, Sean Smith wrote:

> On Tue 02 Dec, Dirk Vormann wrote:
> > > - Jervis was right in the last Q&A. Imperial guard infantry point for point
> > > have the same firepower as marines on overwatch. Also when imperial
> > > guard are supported by hellhounds, demolishers or ogyrns, their assault
> > > value is better than normal space marines supported by vindicators or
> > > dreadnoughts.
> >
> >
> >
> > > Note - Jevis seems to right about the firepower of the imperial
> > > gaurd. The imperial guard fire power (if moving normally)
> > > is equal to the fire power of space marines on overwatch. Also
> > > normal imperial guard troops, with support troops, have an
> > > equal or better assault value than normal space marines, supported
> > > by dreadnoughts or vindicators. Orgyns provide the best assault
> > > value, hellhounds give equal assault and firepower, demolishers
> > > have slightly less firepower and assault value than hellhounds, but
> > > have better armour. The assault values for the imperial
> > > guard are easily beaten by Chaos, Eldar and Tryanids, the imperial
> > > guard will need to use artillery to reduce their strength before
> > > they get into close combat.
> >
> >
> > You are missing the point about proplems with the imperial guard. You did
> > not consider the increased point values for additional command squads in
> > your calculation.
> >
>
> Good point DV, I have taken this additional factor into my calculations
> below.
>
> With the minimum of 1 HQ for 3 IG squads, the IG firepower becomes 0.09
> (instead of 0.14) and the same for the assault value. This compares to a 5
> squad (10 space marine units) space marine detachment with a captain and
> a Librarian. Which has fire power of 0.10 on overwatch (instead of 13)
> and an assault value of 0.17 (instead 0.20), with +1 on the die roll because
> of the Lbrarian. There is still only 0.01 difference in the firepower DV,
> overall I think this still supports my orginal conclusion DV.

Now add more marines (without more commanders). Does that show a
difference? It should.

DV
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