RE: [Epic] Uncheesy detachments

From: Miller, Chris <CMiller_at_...>
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 16:27:18 -0600

> You must have had kinder eldar players: The one I usually played had
> the
> whole table under a bike assault watch. If any unit came out from
> under
> a "first fire unbrella", it was almost gauranted to be hit by at least
>
> two units of bikes. Once we figured out that vypers couldn't enter
> forests it was a little easier, but advancing a titan was always a
> bitch; Luke was never one to worry about wasting 3 100 point bike
> units
> when a 500 -900 point titan was around.
>
---------> Well mainly I was talking about the non-pinning of bikes in
close combat after TL. All those engines, marines, tanks or whatever
following along behind the initial wave could now shoot those bikes to
pieces, where before they weren't a valid target, so the CC ability of
Eldar armies dropped a notch IMHO. They were still more than able to
roast Chaos at range, and they still had scorps and banshees for up
close, the ever-present WR hosts just weren't quite as handy for daemon
busting. Now the one-turn mass swarm vs a titan might still work as that
didn't change...

> When I played chaos against him, he typically had 9 prism cannons
> (counts as psychic) to nuke my demons with. We actually played a
> battle
> where I had 2 LOB's to his 5 companies of falcons. Mine were the
> remenants of a previous campaign battle, his was a mopping up force. I
>
> did manage to kill ~12 with deathstorms before he got enough into
> range
> to melt the LOB's and the surrounding 30 yards of terrain with laser
> blasts.
>
> Thane
>
>
---------> Yeah, between Psycannons, Prism cannons, Psykers (Warlocks)
in more numerous quantities than probably any other army, Striking
Scorps rolling 3d6 +6 in CC, Harlies with free re-rolls and shooty
transports to get them into range, in addition to those things you
mention above, it was hard to do much with Chaos against them. Falcons &
Tempests on Pop-up were a pain to any army, but they were plenty
adequate to nuke the few units you had which were a)not vulnerable to
psykers and b) having any kind of armor save. It's sad when you can't
out-shoot them, and the alleged "CC Superiority" of chaos armies really
just meant you didn't have a ranged attack, and the Eldar could match
your CC rating. Orks or Impies were fun to play, but against Eldar, you
really had to have faith...

Chris Miller

(BTW 9 prism cannons and 50 falcons? Did he actually have mini's for
this? Painted? Heck, I thought 20 in one battle was enough...)
Received on Mon Feb 09 1998 - 22:27:18 UTC