Re: [Epic] Titans and CC (a new theory...)

From: Tony Christney <acc_at_...>
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 19:39:27 -0800

>Brett Hollindale wrote:
>> I don't know Chad, I issued the challenge "you don't need to defend titans",
>> and what I have so far is four (count 'em - 4!) replies suggesting that
>> while it is a valid interpretation, "we're sure that's not what GW meant",
>> one reply of "no I haven't checked the rules 'cause whether it says that or
>> not I'll continue to insist that we do it MY way" and a suggestion that I
>> "drop the subject for pity's sake"...
>
>It seems that your interpretation of the rules relies on the
>definition of pinning. That is to say:
> are you pinned when in base to base contact OR
> when engaged in close combat
>I believe you mentioned that you weren't sure about this yourself
>[snip]
>Colin P
>9404237p_at_...

Page 32, Titan Legions, Entering Close Combat:

"Emperor class Titans and Mega-Gargants can move into close combat at will,
but other models must be on charge orders to move into contact with enemy
models in the movement phase. As soon as a troop stand or vehicle model
touches an enemy they are both engaged in close combat and stop moving
immediately if they are pinned (see below). Models with advance..."

p. 33. Titans and Gargants in Close Combat:

"In order to fight against a Titan or Gargant in close combat vehicles,
super heavy vehicles and troop stands must move into contact with the model
itself, usually moving so that they touch the model's feet (or equivalent).

"A Titan is able to lean forward, sweeping the ground to its front and side.
To represent this a Titan can always opt to fight a close combat with models
in contact with its base (if it has one), even if the enemy are not actually
touching the Titan's feet.

"Enemy models that can fly or leap over large distances can also fight if they
are touching the Titan's base - they don't need to be touching the Titan's
feet. This applies to skimmers, flyers and jump pack-equipped troops.

"When two Titans or Gargants fight each other it is sufficient to move the
models so that their bases are touching. Both can then fight."

It would seem that all of the cases in the second quote are exceptions
to the general case in the first quote. Also, they quite clearly indicate
that models are not pinned until they come into contact with the enemy
model, not its base. Sorry Agro, but it seems as if your theory has been
refuted by the evidence.

Tony Christney
acc_at_...
Received on Fri Mar 07 1997 - 03:39:27 UTC