[Epic] Epic 40k List Questions

From: Richard Dewsbery <dewsbery_at_...>
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 19:05:06 +0100

Here's a copy of a message I've just sent to the rulegivers. Hopefully
this represents everyone's point of view and will get some
clarifications for us!

Richard

> Jervis, I have appointed myself spokesman for the Epic mailing list, so that we can get some clarification on a few points (right now, we're fighting like cats in a sack, so I hope you can help). Staff at my local GW shop have failed thusfar to provide any definative answers. If you are too busy, please pass this on to one of the lesser rules goblins.
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> 4 main areas of contention have arisen.
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> 1) What is the effect during the shhoting phase of blast markers placed on detachments with superheavy weapons, particularly if the detachment contains ONLY superheavy weapons, such as a warlord with only death rays or a detachment containing only land raiders?
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> On the one hand the arguement is that each superheavy weapon should be treated as having a firepower of one; each blast marker causes the loss of one firepower, so it would therefore cause the loss of one death-ray or anti tank shots in the above detachments.
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> The contra argument is that superheavy weapons are only firepower=1 during firefights. Accordingly, there is no mechanism by which blast markers affect their shooting, so the titan or land raiders could just sit there accumulating blast markers while still firing at full effect. The penalty is that it would have difficulties in any assaults or firefights, and won't pass any leadership tests in a hurry.
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> Which interpretation is correct? Both could lead to strange situations in some circumstances. Is there some third option that we have missed?
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> 2) How many stands of terminators can a land raider or rhino carry? The rules give them a transport (2), therefore 2 units, even of terminators (as there are no special exceptions for them) whereas in 40k there is only enough room for 5 models of terminators in either.
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> 3) When must the +25 cost for a detachment HQ be paid? In the Space marine list, is the +25 added on if the detachment is lead by a captain at a cost of 25pts? In the Eldar list, is the +25 paid if the detachment is lead by a Farseer at a cost of 50pts? It appears that the list for marines and chaos marines has been compiled in a different manner to the Eldar list. From the examples given in the armies book, it would appear that the marines must pay the +25 in addition to the captain, but the farseer cost already includes the +25. And can you confirm that the cost of Tarzak grimsteel, the chaos lord example on pge 94, is a typo, the correct cost being 57 (chaos lord 25 + rhino 7 + 25 detachment HQ)?
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> 4) The rules for Eldar Exarchs are also causing confusion. Can they only be added to basic Aspect Warrior stands, confering the assault skill, or can they be added to a stand of Swooping Hawks? What is the effect of adding an Exarch to a Dark Reaper squad? Is the unit's range 15cm or 45cm, assault value 3 (4 divided by 2, plus 1; or 4 plus 1 divided by 2), firepower 2?
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> (Also, pge 66 is missing the stat line for Harlequins, having labelled it as a second stat lie for Aspect Warriors. Another typo?)
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> We eagerly await an official ruling on these points; it won't reduce the number of petty insults, but at least we'll all be playing by the same rules :-)
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> Thanking you in advance on behalf of myself and others,
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> Richard
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Received on Thu Apr 10 1997 - 18:05:06 UTC