Re: [Epic] [E40k] Specialists / Special Ability Costs

From: Mark A Shieh <SHODAN+_at_...>
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 14:56:03 -0400 (EDT)

Richard Dewsbery <dewsbery_at_...> writes:
> For the rest, it appears that the better the basic unit is, the more it
> costs to upgrade. There are however, exceptions.
>
> To upgrade to a hero costs about +50%.

        It seems to depend by race.

        Marines and Eldar pay 10 for Hero
        IG and Orks pay 5 for Hero
        Chaos Coven (exception) pay 8.

        I'm paying the same for hero whether it's a Farseer, Great
Harlequin, or Shadow Seer. (10 points)

> Assault adds 1 tp 3 pts. Jumppacks 4 (but marines get a good deal on
> these as a package - Orks get a great deal).

        IG also get a great deal on Assault/Cavalry (3 points!)
Cavalry seems to be a great bargain in this game.

> To make up options not on the lists, you'll need to feel your way
> through, but as a starting suggestion, terminators with the additional
> assault ability (as suggested by JJ) should cost about 22 or 23 pts
> (either 19 plus 3/4 for assault, or basic marines made heros at 15 +
> 50%). I'd say 23, looking at them in comparison to Captains (although
> if bulleid, I'll concede that you can as easily make a case for them
> costing 10pts as they have the same stats as the Captain - but +6 seems
> a bit expensive for the assault ability).

        Eh? "Hero" doubles your assault, "Assault" adds one and
penalizes your shooting. I see the stats on a Captain being
significantly different than a Marine with "Save" and "Assault". I'm
looking at the inside back cover of the armies book.

                Speed Range FP Assault Armour Cost
Captain 10cm 30cm 1 6 5+ 25
Assault Termie 10cm 15cm 1 4 5+ 19+???
Termie 10cm 30cm 1 3 5+ 19

(Save, Stubborn, Rapid Fire on all 3)

3 points seems plenty.

        I've also felt that Marines and Chaos Marines really aren't
that different, so giving them the Terminator upgrade table that Chaos
has would be the simplest solution. (Stubborn appears to cost 1
point, and Chaos Space Marines appear to be 1 point overpriced)

Mark
Received on Fri Apr 18 1997 - 18:56:03 UTC