Hi!
Welcome Peter!
I'm very glad that our efforts are to your liking. What you have before
you is the labor of nearly 5 years of discussions and play testing. We
try our best to support the game we favor with as much as this group can
produce.
As many in the list, I too, liked the first edition of the game and
actually played it quite extensively. As you point out many aspects bog
down play a little too much. Second edition, in our opinion, had a good
balance of detail and abstraction. Of course there were many things the
game lacked or was poorly integrated. Net epic has over time dealt very
effectively with those problems and has greatly expanded those rules.
The practical experience of members of this list has been crucial to
make Net Epic what it is. You have but scratched the surface on all the
changes, some are monumental (titan construction system ala AT) or small
(vehicles can self defense fire against infantry that charge it) and
many others in between.
Currently, all material can be gotten at www.netepic.org or the download
section of the yahoo group. You have seen the new net epic army cards as
well as buildings and a host of other things. In time even more will be
made available.
You make good points regarding site accessibility and search. Our
resident web master Tom will no doubt hear you suggestions and best
implement them (hear that Tom, wink, wink). We tend not to advertise
ourselves much since we like people to join us through their own motive
and desire. It makes for a better group!
Net epic 4.1 is available at the Epicentre (www.netepic.org) in doc
format I have those files in PDF format which I could make available to
you (and any other member that wishes them). My epic collection of
material is vast so I can scan and get things to people given time.
Scenarios would be a great idea. If you have some please post them. I
think it is something lacking currently in net epic. Also any ideas
should also be sent to Tom for our e-zine Incoming!
Welcome aboard!!
Peter
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> Hi, I've been on this list for about a month and I'm just so impressed
> with Netepic I can't resist having a short rave.
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> I'm an old player who never had time to play as much as I wanted even
> before I had to stop playing for many years.
> I was very passionate about AT and 1st ed when they first came out, even
> though I never got to play it all that much. When 2nd ed came out I
> became a bit dissolusioned though (I couldn't handle Space Marines not
> getting a save for example).
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> More recently I got back into playing 1st ed. (Infact I drafted but
> never sent a post about the virtues of 1st ed on the other Epic list
> where it gets a good trashing). But, as I played 1st ed alot more, many
> of the rules that I liked on paper started to become irritating in
> practice. For example, I liked the firing arcs of 1st ed vehicles. They
> were truer to 40k and helped give each vehicle a distinct individual
> character. But in practice it didn't always work out as I'd imagined.
> For example, because the land Raider and Predator las cannons fire
> either left or right arc, you had to aim the vehicle exactly at the
> target to fire both sides.I'm not a rules lawyer and I didn't feel that
> exact placing of vehicles should really be the focus of the game. So
> there were times, particularly in bigger battles, when both sides wanted
> to fudge this rule. Finally I understood 2nd eds forward arc for all
> vehicles rule.(though I like the Netepic rule for vehicle bolter arcs)
> Also, though short and long range did add tactical nuance, it certainly
> took time to look up those extra stats. There was the same problem with
> the separate stats for shooting vehicles and infantry, though I did like
> this in principal. A las cannon could destroy a Leman Russ with one
> shot, but if it is not an area weapon surely it would take five shots
> to kill five imperial guardsmen? Three killed to remove the stand?
> Inpractice though all the extra saving rolls for infantry made the games
> frustratingly longer - because they just took longer to die.
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> Anyway, I still like 1st edition (I still think a big part of its
> percieved complexity came from very badly laid out reference sheets),
> but Netepic has won me over. Any slight abstractions work well, and the
> game achieves something I could never do by tooling around with the
> rules myself, something only extensive play testing can achieve - game
> balance.
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> An early turning point was when I dug out the spectacular battle report
> in my old WD 179 and I couldn't believe that I didn't get Titan Legions
> when it came out! So much more my style than 3rd editon - and I had
> completely missed the boat! By many years infact! I walked around for
> days unable to believe I had screwed up and the game had gone forever.
> Those glossy ads from the past looked beautiful showing the smorgasboard
> of bits from the box I could never get. They were mocking me!
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> Then - happiness! I found you guys and it was too good to be true that I
> could not only download all the templates from TL - but those great
> looking buildings too! Plus it is better than TL. Netepic rules really
> have made improvements over 2nd ed that I love (like giving space
> marines a save. It gives them their space marine feel back).
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> My only comment is that at first I found the Epicenter, and it's
> mirrors, very confusing. I found the site through Fanatic who still link
> to the old Tzeench site at
> www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/1353/epicentre.htm even the mailgroup
> links to this old site. It would be great if this old site linked to
> other sites, becase for a long time I didn't even know they were there!
> The Google search engine only turns up this old site too.
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> I've printed out all the Netepic 4.0 PDF's from the old site, but it
> now appears the newer sites may have Netepic 4.1? (my mac can't read
> DOCs yet). Also all the army cards were a very welcome discovery. Even
> the play aids site could use a pointer to the download section for all
> the Empirator/Mega-gargant stuff, because not being familiar with news
> groups I didn't realise these strangely missing files could be tucked
> away in yet another download section.
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> One question. Does anyone play scenarios for Netepic? Or do you just lay
> down objective counters as per normal? I've found some scenarios for 2nd
> ed in an old WD and wondered if they/& or others have made their way
> into the system? I don't have 3rd ed, but it looks like its Battles Book
> is full of them and, infact the variety of scenarios is a big part of
> the game - is it not? I haven't found any mention of the subject yet
> in Netepic.
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> Anyway it's so great to see this group keeping the game alive as it
> should be kept alive! And long live the Squats!
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