Hi!
I was tinkering with using a combination of your rules and the drop pod rules. Basically trade you land raiders for the teleport ability. It makes them very useful and resilient. Well worth those 1000 points.
Lets face it we have changed terminators a bit from their original encarnation to make them "worth" it. I really think teleporting is that option that make them a competitve unit (why take termies if veterans are more and cheaper?).
Peter
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eivind Borgeteien" <eivind.borgeteien_at_...>
To: <netepic_at_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 9:26 AM
Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] Guess? Questions.... ^^
> WOW!!
>
> Are you using a whole company of teleporting termies???
>
> My original rules was for a detachment only and brought about some noise in
> my gaming group. (We are known to be a bit noisy though :-))
>
> I think my group will stick to the rules of one detachment as a special
> card, but with this clarification, they are now much more usable, and
> actually worth their cost.
>
> Eivind
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Ramos [mailto:primarch_at_...]
> Sent: 24. mars 2002 13:56
> To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] Guess? Questions.... ^^
>
>
> Hi!
>
> You are correct.
>
> There was some trepidation with teleporting termies, but after having tested
> them personally on a number of ocassions I don't see a disbalance with them.
> Remember you give up your land raiders to teleport them and 1000 points is a
> LOT. I think too that this makes them really worth it. I always thought
> their lack of teleporting was strange, especially when all the fluff places
> this ability in high regard.
>
> Peter
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "antichrist666it" <seimejote_at_tiscalinet.it>
> To: <netepic_at_yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 6:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] Guess? Questions.... ^^
>
>
> > So, to close the question... is this sequence correct (I'm speaking
> > of simple teleported terminators)?
> >
> > 1 - Teleport and scatter
> > 2 - Assign any order
> > 3 - Activate unit as per orders assigned
> >
> > If it's true, finally Tele-Termies will be worth their points...
> > (300/350 for 4 stands O_o) And even their Special card collocation is
> > now understandable...
> >
> > --- In netepic_at_y..., "Peter Ramos" <primarch_at_c...> wrote:
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > After they land and have scattered.
> > >
> > > Peter
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <eivind.borgeteien_at_c...>
> > > To: <netepic_at_y...>
> > > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 3:06 AM
> > > Subject: RE: Re: [NetEpic ML] Guess? Questions.... ^^
> > >
> > >
> > > > Another question though,when are the orders placed? Are they
> > placed before or after the teleport and scatterprocess or are they
> > placed when you know where the knights have landed?
> > > >
> > > > Eivind
> > > > >
> > > > > Fra: "Eivind Borgeteien" <eivind.borgeteien_at_c...>
> > > > > Dato: 2002/03/21 Thu PM 04:44:24 CET
> > > > > Til: <netepic_at_y...>
> > > > > Emne: RE: Re: [NetEpic ML] Guess? Questions.... ^^
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, thats another one for the revision.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks!
> > > > >
> > > > > Eivind
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Peter Ramos [mailto:primarch_at_c...]
> > > > > Sent: 21. mars 2002 16:21
> > > > > To: netepic_at_y...
> > > > > Subject: Re: Re: [NetEpic ML] Guess? Questions.... ^^
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi!
> > > > >
> > > > > <grin> No, GW didn't clear it up, but then thats no surprise.
> > Grey knights
> > > > > are expensive, 400 for 4 stands. As far as I can remember I've
> > always let
> > > > > them have any orders. It does make them useful, but no overly
> > so. Regarding
> > > > > not using first fire, I don't agree. I have read plenty of
> > fluff where they
> > > > > materialize and shoot to pieces whatever is there...sounds like
> > first fire
> > > > > to me. Any limitation of what orders they take makes them
> > worthless, they
> > > > > are barely useful as is, since they only are fielded against
> > chaos. From a
> > > > > game balance point of view I'd leave them with the orders
> > options, after all
> > > > > don't even have psychic abilities, just a psychic save. Not
> > much of a grey
> > > > > knight.....
> > > > >
> > > > > Peter
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Eivind Borgeteien" <eivind.borgeteien_at_c...>
> > > > > To: <netepic_at_y...>
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 11:06 AM
> > > > > Subject: RE: Re: [NetEpic ML] Guess? Questions.... ^^
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hmm..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I had to double-check myself, and it really does not say! An
> > other really
> > > > > > idotic thing is that it says in the text thattr Gray Knights
> > only can be
> > > > > > fielded against Chaos, but on the illustrative picture, they
> > are battling
> > > > > a
> > > > > > genestealercult magus! Talk about consistency!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I know my group has used them the way that they cant move or
> > fire the turn
> > > > > > they are teleported, but that makes them really har to use. I
> > have yet to
> > > > > > see them doany actual damage.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I guess that allowing them to fire in advance fire segment
> > would make them
> > > > > > more usefull. Their movement should anyway be used up by
> > teleporting in.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A real tricky one. Guess we have to wait for the primarch to
> > arise from
> > > > > his
> > > > > > sleep...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Eivind
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: P.J.T [mailto:paul.j.t_at_b...]
> > > > > > Sent: 21. mars 2002 14:55
> > > > > > To: netepic_at_y...
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Re: [NetEpic ML] Guess? Questions.... ^^
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Guys,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Just checked SMII Armies of the Imperium, Its not mentioned
> > which orders
> > > > > > they can be given - just the mechanics of actually
> > teleporting (aim,
> > > > > > scatter).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Makes sense that they shouldn't be able to first fire though.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > Paul "TuffSkull" T.
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> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: <jyrki.saari_at_n...>
> > > > > > To: <netepic_at_y...>
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 1:30 PM
> > > > > > Subject: RE: Re: [NetEpic ML] Guess? Questions.... ^^
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: ext nils.saugen_at_s... [mailto:nils.saugen_at_s...]
> > > > > > > > Sent: 21. March 2002 15:12
> > > > > > > > To: netepic_at_y...
> > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Re: [NetEpic ML] Guess? Questions.... ^^
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You should check the old GW rules! I think they enter on
> > > > > > > > advance orders, but
> > > > > > > > I'm not certain! However, I think it is stated clearly in
> > the
> > > > > > > > old GW rules.
> > > > > > > > I could check that this afternoon if you don't have those
> > > > > > > > anymore! Or you
> > > > > > > > could have a look in the old Battles book (The big yellow
> > > > > > > > one), in the chaos
> > > > > > > > vs bloodangels game, they use Gray knights.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Nils
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In the battlereport you mentioned they charged into CC with
> > Magnus the
> > > > > Red
> > > > > > so judging from that they are on charge orders. However, IIRC
> > it's not
> > > > > > specifically mentioned in the rules (surprise!).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jyrki Saari
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -There is no such thing as free lunch because eating takes
> > time and time
> > > > > > is money.
> > > > > > >
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